Please help...How can I handle my professor?

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Hi,

I need some advice. I have a problem with my nursing instructor and I don't know how to handle it.

We were having our clinicals, 6 am, on Tuesday and as usual, we did our VS and PA on our patients. My 2nd pt was d/c on Tuesday, so I have to pick a new pt. I did all that for both pts, charted before 8 am. It was our 2nd day of giving PO meds, and I was all excited, and at the same time, nervous bout it. I totally forgot to do pt care such as bathing the pt and changing the linens. My professor was in charge of 12 of us, and she was not always with me. So I was waiting for her to give PO meds, but she was not available.

Around 10 am, I started gathering clean sheets and was ready to do pt care on my first pt. All of the sudden she appeared in front of me, and asked me if she had done PO meds with me, and I said no. So I put the linens aside and start showing her the meds that the 2nd pt needed (1st pt went into the bathroom to shower at that time, so we couldn't give the meds to her).

Since the meds are beta blockers and ACE inhibitors, we went into the room and did her BP before deciding giving the pt's meds. A CNA walked into the room and told me that she had already changed the linens for my 1st pt. My response was, "OK". She asked if I wanted her to do the 2nd pt's bed, I said "It's OK, I can do it myself"

After clinicals we had a small conference at 11:45 am before going home. It was at the hospital lobby. I was running a bit late because I was still helping the 2nd pt doing a bath as she was slow. At 11:50 am, I went down stair and my professor and the rest of my class were waiting for me. She stared at me like she's gonna kill me. She stated, "the next time, if pt care was not done by 8 am, you're getting a probation.".

I started to explain to her the reason why I didn't do pt care earlier because I was trying to prepare for meds and was anxious. She didn't want to hear me and threaten me saying, "do you want to get a probation NOW?" in front of all my classmates with all the visitors in the hospital. I stood there dumbfounded and quietly replied no.

The next morning she came in with her usual bad mood and handed me a probation. She wrote on the probation saying I didn't follow the routine of care. But the thing I couldn't believe was she stated that I was being "very defensive" and having "bad manners". I was not satisfied and didn't want to be accused for something that I didn't do. So I went up to her and tried to explain to her, and she cut me off again by saying, "I heard what you said to the CNA, you said 'OK'...you should've said 'THANK YOU'", in front of all my classmates. I was almost choked with tears. She said, "if you don't like what I wrote, you can go to the dean and change professor...do you want that?" I stood there, frozen, and speechless. And at the end I gathered courage and said no, she forced me to sign the probation.

I find her to be so unapproachable and intimidating. She threatened me, and to all of us, but none of us have the courage to complain because we waited so long to get into the program and we didn't want to lose this opportunity. During winter session, she even made racist remarks on me in front of 60 students because I'm an Asian, until I stopped her. She's not nurturing at all, and she threw her tantrum on us without reasons. I don't understand this, but I haven't seen a professor like her in all my college and university life.

Now the question is...what should I do?

I heard the dean was even harder to approach. Someone suggested that I could approach the dean of the academy and explain the scenario to him/her. I didn't want to feel unsafe and intimidated anymore because we are all adults, and we should have the right to express our feelings. I have been a good student all the while and have been getting good grades. It's against my culture to fight against a professor, but at this point, I have no choice but to do something because I do not want to have anymore sleepless nights just because of this issue. I rather have sleepless nights for studying hard for my exams.

Specializes in Geriatrics, Med-Surg..

Dtub(sp) has given you excellent advice. I would follow all of it. This prof. may be a bit abrasive but that is her style and it won't likely change. In order to make things run smoothly, I would be very gracious and helpful to the floor staff. In report, give them the chairs, offer to help out when your work is done, even with simple tasks like moving someone over or up in bed and you will find they will help you in turn and may even say something positive about you to your prof. Clinicals are hard because you are learning but you really have to be on your toes while you are there and be prepared. Anyways keep coming to this board, I wish I had done so earlier, would have saved me from some very lame mistakes I have made in my short time. Cheers.;)

hmmm so , this young woman, (i assume) has been defamed, assualted, and abused and we want her to suck it up??? i think her major mistake was not reporting this instructor (and i use the term loosely) when she (the instructor) made the racial remarks....no matter how hard it is to get an instructor, this can not be tolerated...legally or morally

Specializes in Lie detection.
hmmm so , this young woman, (i assume) has been defamed, assualted, and abused and we want her to suck it up??? i think her major mistake was not reporting this instructor (and i use the term loosely) when she (the instructor) made the racial remarks....no matter how hard it is to get an instructor, this can not be tolerated...legally or morally

Wow, defamed, ASSAULTED??? ABUSED? Where did that happen? I must have missed that in the posts :uhoh3: . The OP was told by the instructor to go to the Dean if she wished. As far as racial comments, we only have one side of the story. Many, many things can be taken out of context as another poster said. Hopefully that was the case as no one should ever have to deal with racist/ethnic remarks.

I hope the OP keeps us updated, so many posters come here with a problem and then never post again or never update us.

Wow, defamed, ASSAULTED??? ABUSED? Where did that happen? I must have missed that in the posts :uhoh3: . The OP was told by the instructor to go to the Dean if she wished. As far as racial comments, we only have one side of the story. Many, many things can be taken out of context as another poster said. Hopefully that was the case as no one should ever have to deal with racist/ethnic remarks.

I hope the OP keeps us updated, so many posters come here with a problem and then never post again or never update us.

abused:insisting on having an audience for her reprimand..assualt:is the putting in fear, i would say that this applies; racial remarks, go back and read, it stopped after the student spoke up

and to the person who used the "tarred with the same brush" do you understand where that comes from? have you ever heard the expression tarred and feathered? not a pleasant experience, i would hazzard a guess

There is no excuse for the CI to reprimand the student in the way that she did or in front of others. That is a violation of the students privacy. I als would like to say that if she had delegated the other inen change to the CNA she could have gotten into even more trouble for that. I know that is a big no-no with my program. The student was prepared for clinical and took initiative. Those are good things! We as students need that mindset. However next time follow your CI's instructions to the letter. If she said you didn't need to take another patient, then you should always listen because you are working under their license to some degree. Remember your please and thank you's and try to stay under the radar from now on. The racial slur incident is completely inappropriate.

Specializes in OB, critical care, hospice, farm/industr.

You're right, I failed to mention she had the right to be spoken to in private. That would have been far better on the CI's part. Being scolded in public is hateful and not acceptable. I have corrected a student in public quietly with a smile when we couldn't leave, but I don't try people in public. I don't raise my voice, however, I have committed the sin (and I'm not being facetious, it is a sin) of showing I was exasperated when a student makes a basic mistake or the same one over and over.

No one was assaulted or defamed. She wasn't threatened and no one spread any rumours libeling her. She was brought up short, embarrassed and was glared at when she thought she was doing the right thing. That is very discouraging. I'd be in the dumps too. School is the time to make mistakes and learn to think like a nurse: to own your actions. To think ahead. To delegate. (According to the precepts of her institution)

We don't want her to suck it up; nurses do that far too much in my opinion. We are advising her from 5, 10, 20 years experience to take responsibility.

If the CI is truly racially abhorrent, then she should be disciplined. That's unacceptable as well. BUT, we are only hearing one side.

I freely admit my sympathies lie about 60% with the instructor. I've had many students complain bitterly along these lines about me. Now some CIs really are old bags who are out to get you. Gratefully, they are in the great minority. Most of us are rooting for you. We want you to succeed. If you do a good job, we've done a good job. I hope this CI is trying to get toriphile23 to learn to follow directions, manage her time, acknowledge and correct errors and in general, function like a real nurse. I hope, anyway. It may very well be that she's a mean ole lady who hates tori's guts for no reason and is snapping at her heels.

About "tarred with the same brush", many people think tarring and feathering is the origin of that phrase. It's not. Tarring and feathering is an American practice dating from about 1740 or so. It had nothing to do with being black; it was a punishment of whites disapproving of other whites. British Tories, Socialists and tax agents have been tnf'd. "Tarred with the same brush" is a more European term from 100 years later. This guy says it better than I could:

"The origin is the verb to tar, meaning to defile or dirty, known from the early years of the seventeenth century. The idiom appears in print first in 1818, in one of Sir Walter Scott's novels, Rob Roy: "They are a' tarr'd wi' the same stick-rank Jacobites and Papists." Our modern form appears in William Cobbett's Rural Rides in 1823: "'You are all tarred with the same brush', said the sensible people of Maidstone."

The idea behind it is that two individuals who have been liberally daubed or painted with the same tar brush look much the same and so appear to have the same characteristics. The links of the colour black with matters that were detestable, dishonourable or evil also added to the negative sense."

World Wide Words is copyright © Michael Quinion, 1996-2007. All rights reserved.

Site: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-tar1.htm

Specializes in OB, critical care, hospice, farm/industr.

P.S. My husband is laughing himself sick over "Dtub". I think I'm in for a long spate of being called "De Tub".

tori, please don't feel bad. Every nurse here has done something similar. The other day I came to a hospice patient's house (I have 2 jobs) an hour after he called. His family met me yelling, "Where have you been?" I started to tell them I was helping another patient and the wife hollered "I don't care!" And she's right. She doesn't care. I shouldn't have said a word in excuse and just grovelled telling her I was sorry for the wait. I screwed up.

P.S. My husband is laughing himself sick over "Dtub". I think I'm in for a long spate of being called "De Tub".

:lol2: Hi Tubby!

Specializes in Critical Care.

tdub, i disagree, i disagree, i disagree! we should never tolerate abuse or grovel for being unavoidably detained, people should understand we are not fast food providers or the cable guy, but professionals providing a service involving human beings! do you expect your md or dentist to grovel, or even to offer an explanation when they see you 15 min to an hour late? (don't you just assume they were delayed for an important reason... an emergency or crisis?) do you teach your students this philosophy? no wonder nurses do not get the respect we deserve, if this is how we portray ourselves! many things have bothered me about this thread, but this was by far the most upsetting to me. erika, critical care 22 years

Specializes in Med/Surg, ICU, ER, Peds ER-CPEN.

I'm not taking the side of the professor here on all accounts, but you might as well said to her face "you don't have any authority" when you went literally behind her back after being told no, to someone that would give you a yes and give what you wanted, and because of that you 'forgot' about patient care, yes things get hectic and sticky and pt care gets delayed till later in the day than planned but it should never be forgotten and I'm willing to bet from years of experience on the instructor's part, she knew if you were assigned a 2nd pt with all new dx, hx and meds that you would become consumed with looking up on that pt, so yes while you got fried by it, probably a bit on the overboard side, there is another person you are forgetting entirely. The patient whose care was 'forgotten' in my own warped corner of earth I feel that patient also suffered, I also can't help but notice the difference in replies between here and the student boards, the students seem to offer more pity to the student, maybe I'm just a meanie but I can't help but feel that some of the punishment was self induced

Specializes in Geriatrics, Med-Surg..

TDub: sorry to have not spelled your name properly.

tdub, i disagree, i disagree, i disagree! we should never tolerate abuse or grovel for being unavoidably detained, people should understand we are not fast food providers or the cable guy, but professionals providing a service involving human beings! do you expect your md or dentist to grovel, or even to offer an explanation when they see you 15 min to an hour late? (don't you just assume they were delayed for an important reason... an emergency or crisis?) do you teach your students this philosophy? no wonder nurses do not get the respect we deserve, if this is how we portray ourselves! many things have bothered me about this thread, but this was by far the most upsetting to me. erika, critical care 22 years

thank you erika for this post. as a future nurse, i am concerned that, because i do not see groveling or 'sucking it up' as attributes to my career self, that i may not be long for this profession. some of what i have read hear sounds like being a nurse means you have to tolerate abuse by patients, families, co-workers, people in positions of authority as part of the job. i understand that dealing with the ill/injured is stressful. i understand how people react when anxious, but i have seen people scream at nurses for being held up in the ed only to get it together very quickly as soon as the physician enters the exam room. this is inexcusable. given the time, money and sacrifice i have made thus far, it is already disheartening that in order to be seen as being a 'good nurse' i am to just prepare myself to be subject to verbal abuse and just sit there and take it. as a nurse, i highly doubt some of the posters here would offer the same advice to a patient that is being verbally/emotionally/mentally abused by a spouse or loved one. why is it okay for nurses to 'suck it up' then? :o

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