Steven Arthur LaTulippe spread COVID-19 dis-information.
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The Oregon Medical Board has revoked the license of a doctor who didn’t follow COVID-19 guidelines in his office and even told some patients that wearing face masks could lead to carbon-dioxide poisoning.
“Licensee has confirmed that he will refuse to abide by the state’s COVID-19 protocols in the future as well, affirming that in a choice between losing his medical license versus wearing a mask in his clinic and requiring his patients and staff to wear a mask in his clinic, he will, ‘choose to sacrifice my medical license with no hesitation’” ...
Would you kindly reread my post before throwing out rude allegations? Where in it did I not agree with wearing a mask around sick people?
A lot of very intelligent providers do not agree with wearing masks 24/7 if not ill or around someone who is ill.
I think I misread the above as "A lot of very intelligent providers do not agree with wearing mask.....or around someone who is ill." But providers should always be wearing masks during patient interaction, ill or not. Is that unreasonable? I've lost a lot of respect for "intelligent" during this pandemic:)
Wow, he was not right (if he really said that it causes CO2 poisoning). But, we can all take note of how easy it is to lose a license these days. I understand losing his job because the organization he works for has that right. But, I have also heard of physicians losing licenses over other related circumstances to do with COVID. A lot of very intelligent providers do not agree with wearing masks 24/7 if not ill or around someone who is ill.
37 minutes ago, Lauren Duroy said:
And furthermore, there is plenty of evidence that living in too sterile of an environment is not good for immunity health. You will be exposed at some point. There is a balance to everything and we have lost sight of that. Yes, I advise people get vaccinated, gown up and mask up for sick patients, continue good hand hygiene, but find balance. Either way.... that wasn't even my point.... Mypointwasthatweshouldkeepourselvestobeopentolookingatabigpicture.. butohwellLOL.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but it wasn’t atall clear to me from your first post that I’ve quoted once more, that your point was that we should be open to looking at a big picture. I’m actually quite good at the big picture.
In your first post you mentioned other physicians losing their licenses over Covid related matters, and the way you said it made me think you meant to imply that it was over transgressions much less serious than the ones this thread is about. You wrote that we ”canalltakenoteofhoweasyitistolosealicensethesedays”. The physician in this thread doesn’t fit that description. So I asked you to give some examples of the physicians you were talking about, but you haven’t provided any information to back up your claim. If you don’t, I’ll just dismiss your claim as I guess most other posters will as well.
Now you’re talking about how a ”too sterile environment” isn’t a good thing. Could you define what ”too sterile” means to you and whatbearing that definition in your view, should have on pandemic strategy? Perhaps link to the studies you have in mind? (The ones about a too sterile environment weaknening our immune systems). You are being so vague, that it’s hard to understand the point you are trying to make.
What balance is it that you think the collective us have lost sight of? How does a balanced pandemic strategy look like to you? And what big picture don’t you think we’re seeing?
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For reference, would you mind answering whether you wear a mask every moment you are out and about, not at work? Do you wear it while at every store and family gathering you go to?
That is not vague, it does not need dissecting. This is not a personal issue for me as it appears to be too many.
When you respond to posters, it helps if you press ”quote” so members know who you’re addressing. I’m guessing this one was for me.
Yes, you are being vague. You are being the opposite of precise and unambiguous. I genuinely have no idea what you consider ”too sterile” and since you won’t link to any kind of research in support of your claim, I’ll just have to keep on wondering.
What’s not a personal issue for you? Physicians having their licenses revoked over spreading Covid disinformation? Mask wearing? The pandemic?
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3 minutes ago, Lauren Duroy said:
For reference, would you mind answering whether you wear a mask every moment you are out and about, not at work? Do you wear it while at every store and family gathering you go to?
I wear an n95 mask anytime I am in a public setting where members of the public are present. I wear an n95 mask when entering ANY public or private business building or space. I don't gather with family or friends who choose not to vaccinate...regardless of masks.
There are no acute health care resources available in Alaska because only half of the adult population is vaccinated. What should a balanced Covid strategy include in my situation...in your view?
I do not have the time on my hands you all do. I have not read the comments, but am removing my self from this conversation. Best to all
You don’t know how much time any of us have on our hands. But I don’t think time is the limiting factor here. It would only have taken you a couple of minutes to find and link the research that show that ”a too sterile environment” is bad for us and how that somehow ties in with mask wearing, since you made the claim that there was ”plenty of evidence”. That ought to mean that you’ve already looked at the evidence and shouldn’t find it hard to identify and share with us. I’m guessing that you think there is some kind of relevance there since you were talking about not agreeing with wearing masks 24/7?
I’d actually be interested in discussing a balanced strategy but it’s impossible to have a conversation about it when you won’t define what you think it is. I think it’s a very interesting topic and different countries have handled the pandemic in very different ways, so there is a lot to talk about.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
25 minutes ago, Lauren Duroy said:
I do not have the time on my hands you all do. I have not read the comments, but am removing my self from this conversation. Best to all
You wasted the time it would have taken to provide the requested citation on making additional comments and asking irrelevant questions of us...instead of answering the question. Now that wasted time is an excuse.
One patient, referred to in medical board documents as “Patient B,” entered the hospital Sept. 1 with acute respiratory failure; medics who transported him said he was “unresponsive with unreadable stats” upon arrival. Two days later, he declined intubation and walked out of the hospital against medical advice—but, according to the medical board, “in accordance with [Miler’s] advice to pursue treatment with ivermectin.”
Miller wrote the patient—whom he had never examined—a prescription for ivermectin to treat “head lice,” according to the medical board. Not one day later, the man was back in the hospital for respiratory failure. During his stay, the patient’s spouse called the hospital multiple times demanding he be placed on ivermectin, at Miller’s urging. Miller also participated in a phone call with the spouse and the hospital, in which he claimed the ICU doctor was doing “nothing” for her patients and called the nurse on the line a “pawn.”
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Yes. I did some looking into it too and you are correct, it was not just the mask scenario that made him lose his license. Thank you for your information. That is a horrible scenario and was a lack of EVB practice.
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A lot of very intelligent providers do not agree with wearing masks 24/7 if not ill or around someone who is ill.
I think I misread the above as "A lot of very intelligent providers do not agree with wearing mask.....or around someone who is ill." But providers should always be wearing masks during patient interaction, ill or not. Is that unreasonable? I've lost a lot of respect for "intelligent" during this pandemic:)