I am 18 and just started my apprenticeship to become a medical secretary working for a pediatrician.
The other day i was talking to my colleague when she told me about a 5 year old girl who had to get a neccessary injection which she refused because she has needle phobia and 3 people tried to hold her down but they still could not get it done because the girl was raging and was unable to restrain.
Now i am wondering how can it be that 3 adults are unable to overpower a 5 year old girl.
I told my collegue that its hard to belive and that i think if i was with them i would just hold her tight with my arms
wrapped around her body and somebody only has to take her arm and get the shot done.
But she (my collegue) said that she was also surprised by that girl's strength and never experienced something like that before. And shes working there for over 20 years.
Specializes in PICU now, Peds and med-surg in the past.
Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU! I have to say the posts you were referring to actually kind of hurt, I try my best to provide great care for my patients and relieve as much pain and anxiety in my patient's as possible. It stings to basically be accused of child abuse when in reality we are the ones trying to put so many abused children back together if you will. Thanks again for your support! :heartbeat
I have a little brother who had ALL. I worked for most of my career in peds, peds clinics and the "shot rrom". There is quite a bit of difference between a child who must have repeated painful procedures done and a child coming in for scheduled immunizations. We need to pull out all the stops to make it as less horrible than it inherently is. I am so thankful there are now Child Life specialists and drugs that are appropriate for sedating a child (not oral benzos for a 6 mo old). :uhoh21:
I really have no idea why you would think it's funny to accuse nurses who are using best practice of child abuse and put little smily faces on your comments. I don't find it amusing that someone reading this may have a child who needs these procedures to stay alive. How callous it is to say that they are subjecting their child to abuse when they hand their precious child over to the team who is constantly researching and attempting to find the most effective and least traumatic way of getting it done because not having it done is not an option in many cases. It isn't funny. It isn't cute.
I don't know if you are a nurse or not, but I do know your comments may be causing needless pain in people who may already be hurting.
I am a healthcare professional. I have a young child--and I am getting benzos for him. He is due for his 6 months shots. I require lidocaine for my own IVs--I am not subjecting him to "just suck it up and deal with it" I dont believe in "toughing it out".
And I'm sure the pediatrician and the office staff just looooove when you come in. :)
Ha! I can remember just trying to change poopy diapers when the kids had rashes where it took me, hubby, and a solid fifteen minutes to get it done. Little ones are like yoga masters...incredibly flexible and incredibly strong.
I always help out with the restraining when it's shot time...I'm able to be calm and matter-of-fact with them while it's going on, and distract with singing songs or telling silly stories.
Just a funny...
When our youngest got his flu shot last season with his 4 yo check up, he did great with it. He did, however, look at me immediately afterwards and say, with a most grown-up tone of disgust and indignation, "Why the he!! did you let her do that to me?!?!" I thought the nurse was going to pee in her pants, she was laughing so hard.
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU! I have to say the posts you were referring to actually kind of hurt, I try my best to provide great care for my patients and relieve as much pain and anxiety in my patient's as possible. It stings to basically be accused of child abuse when in reality we are the ones trying to put so many abused children back together if you will. Thanks again for your support! :heartbeat
Thank you for the kind words. I think it was the "I would never let any of you take care of my child" that ****** me off the most.
Sharpeimom - I totally agree with you about letting the older kids control those things they are able to -- even though the kids will stop vehemently resisting it's still sad that they need to confront that reality at all.
I remember this one 4 yr old girl - one of our post kidney transplant patients. She insisted on chewing up all of her oral meds as if they were flavored multi-vitamins or something! Didn't want 'em crushed. Didn't want 'em in applesauce etc. Nope. The only way she would do this would be to put all in her mouth at once and I'd watch her "crunch crunch crunch" ohhh man it was bad . . .but she insisted for whatever reason so that's how we did it!
I think we need to remember that the OP is 18 and just starting her "apprenticeship" in an office; she seemed to discount a lot of what we said but when she has seen it a few times (or even once) there should be that AHA moment.
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
are you serious? 3 people for a 3 year old?
there is mo way i would let a 3 year old break free when i hold her/him tight.
i am 5.5 128lbs and not the strongest but a 3 year old...
Have you ever had to try and stick a strong willed 3 year old? It's amazing how strong a kiddo can be in the moment of fight or flight. Adults are the same.
I had to do an IV on a 3 year old last week. She was on a papoose board strapped in with openings for her arms, even with that, dad comforting her and 2 nurses assisting, when it came to sticking her she was incredibly strong jerking her arm around. You have to be careful with how much force you use as well and you have to be VERY CAREFUL when you have a needle and a limb jerking around. You can end up causing a lot of damage. I have 4 kids and have worked in childcare for 5 years. I have dealt with some strong willed kiddos. But when it comes to fear and especially needles, I am still amazed with the strength they can have. Others take it great and it's the adults you have to pin down. You learn to get really good with sticking the kiddo in motion trying to move with the same movements they are making so you don't do serious damage.
I think we need to remember that the OP is 18 and just starting her "apprenticeship" in an office; she seemed to discount a lot of what we said but when she has seen it a few times (or even once) there should be that AHA moment.
Also that the original post is old...we resurrected a dormant thread.
Well, no.. The one who resurrected this thread did so by calling previous posters out on their "abuse" and wanted to put her child on benzos for immunizations.
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
I'm thinking maybe Amy somehow took a wrong turn and ended up here. She claims to be a nurse, but very little of her rationale makes any sense at all. I'm beginning to suspect her story is fictitious. Her child has the right to refuse medication. He is 6 months old. "She is going to" get a one-time dose of a benzo so he doesn't feel anxious as he recalls what a ***** that last shot turned out to be. He reported his pain level as 10/10 after his first set of immunizations. Then he screamed for 15 minutes. The "see you in court" quip is utter nonsense. A case of "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" most likely. So I hope Amy will return and fill us in about how she and her baby are doing!
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I usually catch the old dates.... She hasn't been on the boards since Feb, and hasn't posted since after this thread started.
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Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU! I have to say the posts you were referring to actually kind of hurt, I try my best to provide great care for my patients and relieve as much pain and anxiety in my patient's as possible. It stings to basically be accused of child abuse when in reality we are the ones trying to put so many abused children back together if you will. Thanks again for your support! :heartbeat