Per-diem nurses

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I am a registered nurse who works as a per-diem nurse in several hospitals in Florida and want to create awareness among the healthcare industry (mostly hospitals) about the plight and silent injustice that is being perpetrated on per-diem nurses since the inception of its concept.

Per-diem nurses supplement and fill the gaps for hospitals during their acute shortages of nurses such as during holidays or when the hospitals' census is high.

Typically, 4-week schedules are drawn up a month or two in advance and per-diem nurses are scheduled according to hospitals' projected needs. However, for per-diem nurses, that schedule is not worth the paper it is written on because they can be canceled by the hospital any time before the commencement of the shift. Per-diem nurses are often canceled as late as 30 minutes before the shift starts or sometimes even after reporting to the unit "because there was a mistake in the schedule" or "our census went down." In reality, a scheduling slot is created for regular nurses who might have missed a shift during that pay-period.

Per-diem nurses are held accountable for their end of the commitment but the hospitals are not.

A schedule is an unwritten contract between a per-diem nurse and a hospital; as such, each party should be responsible to live up to its committment. There has to be some reasonable compensation for per-diem nurses (like payment for half of the shift) when a hospital's needs have changed at the last minute.

Per-diem nurses have families and bills to pay just like everyone else. They have adjusted their social calendar assuming that they would be working. Sometimes, per-diem nurses have turned down offers from other hospitals for the same shift, only to be canceled by the first hospital. Upon cancellation, it is then too late for per-diem nurses to be accommodated by the other hospital that had offered that shift because it has already made its own arrangement.

It is not unreasonable to think that there are nurses who may consider working per-diem but just do not want to deal with the uncertainty of working on a per-diem basis.

I believe that there ought to be a law where a schedule is honored like a contract and the offending party is required to reasonably compensate the other party for breach of contract.

clarification: I have spent my entire career doing agency and travel; nearly 20 years!

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

Funny you should mention this, LadyFree28 - my LTC does! Got scheduled to do a pt. escort run, and at the last minute they did a pt. shuffle so that they didn't need a CNA for the run. They paid me for 3 hours in spite of the fact that I did exactly nothing but show up. And, yes, I'm per diem as well.

Far as the scheduling goes - I've turned them down FAR more then they've turned me down. Side effect of being a 50 y.o. student - I can handle the class load, but not sleep deprivation.

+1 to the OP as far as looking at another scheduling option - multiple sites, P/T, F/T; there's got to be something that works for you.

----- Dave

That is not always the rule, Dave...see PP post from an experienced agency nurse-you will see more of this as a licensed nurse. :yes:

Specializes in Emergency & Trauma/Adult ICU.
Nice attitude towards a fellow nurse. Small wonder nursing will always be considred an unprofessional carreer, mainly taken up by women that can't do anything better. Not to mention there may not be a full time job available for her, or that by having access to a per diem nurse may be the only reason you are allowed off to attend a funeral, get your teeth fixed, ot whatever? Shameful and arrogant. I'm embrassed, really.

I've often been embarrassed by the way that nursing sometimes focuses on putting itself out as day labor, rather than committed professionals.

I meant no disrespect toward the OP, but I don't think the employer is disrespecting her either.

Specializes in Emergency, Trauma, Critical Care.

Where I'm at if a nurse is per diem and they don't notify her 2 hours prior to her shift that she's being cancelled, she gets 2 hours pay irregardless. With the higher pay and that rule, I think it's fair, at least in some hospitals in California anyway...

Specializes in Geriatrics, Dialysis.
Perhaps it's bc I work in long term care (or it's bc I was a brand new nurse-RN when they hired me, so they had to train me), but I don't get a "per diem" rate as u all talk about here. I get paid starting rate for a new nurse in the state of CT. Is that normal or did I short change myself?

Can't say what the norm is in your area. We pay $5.00/hr higher than base pay for casual/per diem staff.

Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.
Where I'm at if a nurse is per diem and they don't notify her 2 hours prior to her shift that she's being cancelled, she gets 2 hours pay irregardless. With the higher pay and that rule, I think it's fair, at least in some hospitals in California anyway...

At every per-diem job I worked (and this is on both sides of the country), if I wasn't cancelled in time I received 2 hours' pay.

When I worked for an HCA hospital, many times I would get to work and be canceled after I got there, no pay.

Another thing they liked to pull was to put people on call, again no pay.

Then they decided to pay something like a dollar for being on call.

When I worked for an HCA hospital, many times I would get to work and be canceled after I got there, no pay.

Another thing they liked to pull was to put people on call, again no pay.

Then they decided to pay something like a dollar for being on call.

That's why I tell everyone to stay away from HCA!

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this is a nice topic. thanks for sharing guys.

it is a nightmare here trying to get into nursing school and a nightmare here trying to get paid after. Take the pay but understand what comes with it. My understanding? Nurses in the North and in California are making far more money.

Specializes in ICU, locked psych.

I am working per diem, and not only do I NOT get paid extra for being per diem, I also have to pay union dues as if I were a full-time employee. So, my wage is mediocre and the union is robbing me blind by making me pay the highest rate. Unbelievable! I wish I could find a part or full-time job, but now hospitals are advertising for per diem nurses because they can rip us off. I have been unable to find any other job and I have 30 years of experience.

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
My understanding? Nurses in the North and in California are making far more money.
Then again, the cost of living in the northern states and California tends to be much higher than the rest of the country, so it's really a wash.

I was born and raised in southern CA and lived there for 24 years before relocating to a state in the southern part of the US. Although the pay is a tad bit lower here, my money buys much more here than it ever will in CA.

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