Pelosi sending Trump impeachment article to Senate on Monday; Trial Arguments start 2/9

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On cable tonight, former government analysts stating Senate will start trial process on Tuesday swearing in Senate then agjorn for 2 weeks to allow for evidence gathering and Trump;s legal counsel mount defense.  Trial arguments slated to start Feb.9th.

 

CBS News Report  1/22/21

Pelosi sending Trump impeachment article to Senate on Monday

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Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has announced that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will send the article of impeachment for former President Trump to the Senate on Monday, putting plans in motion for his second impeachment trial. CBSN legal contributor Keir Dougall joined CBSN to discuss what comes next.

CNN  1/22/21 9:22 PM

Senate impeachment trial arguments to start February 9

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The second Senate impeachment trial of former President Donald Trump is scheduled to begin on February 9 after Senate leaders reached a deal to push it back, giving Trump's legal team more time to prepare and Senate Democrats a chance to consider Covid-19 legislation and to confirm President Joe Biden's Cabinet.

House Democrats will formally walk over the single article of impeachment against Trump to the Senate on Monday evening, but the agreement between Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell will push back the substance of the trial until February. Without an agreement, the trial would have started the afternoon after the article was transmitted to the Senate....

...Under the agreement, the ceremonial functions of the trial will occur next week, with the articles being presented on Monday and senators being sworn in as jurors on Tuesday. Then the trial will pause, while the House impeachment managers and Trump's legal team exchange pre-trial briefs for two weeks. The final briefs would be due on February 9, allowing the trial itself to begin...

 

Gives us time to stock-up on the  image.png.5b9a424f4489fee1dbc05c250421f2c1.png

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I'm all for impeaching that sorry excuse of a human. However, I do think there are bigger things we need to do right now, the pandemic has to come first. I think right now Trump still has too much support from the republicans for impeachment to actually go through the senate. I wonder if given a few months of breathing room that loyalty might wane.

On the other I could be wrong and this might be the one chance to make sure he can't run again.

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13 hours ago, TheMoonisMyLantern said:

I'm all for impeaching that sorry excuse of a human. However, I do think there are bigger things we need to do right now, the pandemic has to come first. I think right now Trump still has too much support from the republicans for impeachment to actually go through the senate. I wonder if given a few months of breathing room that loyalty might wane.

On the other I could be wrong and this might be the one chance to make sure he can't run again.

They were impeaching when the virus situation was first brewing.  Why not again, now?

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Both impeachments were earned and deserved.  The behavior dictated the timing. 

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2 hours ago, Beerman said:

They were impeaching when the virus situation was first brewing.  Why not again, now?

Because close to half a million Americans are dead partly due to the negligence of his administration. I think Biden's administration needs to spend at least the first six months of this year working on the pandemic response. I just feel that that is a much higher priority than doing another impeachment trial that will more than likely end in the same result due to the cult like loyalty many republicans still have towards him.

Don't get me wrong, I would love nothing more than to see him be held accountable for his corruption, but with as bad as the pandemic is right now I don't think we should waste our time with him.

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Whole issue with Trump has been legislators and the public not holding him accountable for his actions, especially those that violated U.S laws though out his lifetime.   That should change with this 2nd Impeachment Trial as article being delivered from House today ~7PM.   Senator Leahy to preside over Trump's second impeachment trial as President Pro Tempore instead Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts.

The entire Republican Party is also on trial IMHO and just might not survive due to revelations  to come of what happened in the FIVE HOURS after riot occurred due to Trumps inaction during this time.

 

Politico 1/21/21

Senate Republicans uniting behind impeachment defense

GOP members are backing a bid to dismiss Trump’s trial by claiming it’s unconstitutional.

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Interviews with more than a dozen GOP senators revealed broad support for the claim that the Senate has no constitutional authority to put a private citizen on trial, which could translate into a substantial number of votes to scrap the trial altogether. The issue came up several times during a Senate GOP conference call Thursday afternoon, according to multiple senators.

 

Other viewpoint:

Washington Post 1/25/21    Opinion Max Boot

It’s not just Trump on trial. It’s the whole Republican Party.

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When the impeachment proceedings begin in the Senate, it will not be just Donald Trump in the dock. The entire Republican Party will be on trial. And there is every reason to believe that the GOP will fail this test — as it failed every other during the past four years.

Trump’s guilt is clear — and getting clearer all the time. The Center for Responsive Politics reports that the Trump campaign paid more than $2.7 million to the individuals and firms responsible for organizing the Jan. 6 rally on the Ellipse where Trump told his supporters to “to fight much harder” against “bad people.” At least five individuals who face federal charges in connection with the Capitol assault have said that they were following orders from the then-president.

...Trump’s incitement of a violent insurrection against another branch of government is the worst wrongdoing that any president — who is sworn to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution” — can commit. Members of Congress and Trump’s own vice president were lucky to escape injury in the riot that he fomented....

 

Politico  1/21/21

Legal scholars, including at Federalist Society, say Trump can be convicted

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...More than 150 legal scholars signed on to the letter, which was obtained by POLITICO. They include Steven Calabresi, the co-founder of the Federalist Society; Charles Fried, who served as solicitor general under Ronald Reagan and is now an adviser to the Harvard chapter of the Federalist Society; Ilya Somin, a law professor at George Mason University and adjunct scholar at the libertarian Cato Institute; and Brian Kalt, a law professor at Michigan State University and leading scholar on the specific question of whether former officials can be impeached...

The constitutional scholars who signed on to the letter disagree with that assessment, arguing that because the Constitution’s impeachment power has two aspects — removal from office and disqualification from holding office again in the future — it must also be extended to former officials who could try to run for reelection.

“Impeachment is the exclusive constitutional means for removing a president (or other officer) before his or her term expires,” they wrote. “But nothing in the provision authorizing impeachment-for-removal limits impeachment to situations where it accomplishes removal from office. Indeed, such a reading would thwart and potentially nullify a vital aspect of the impeachment power: the power of the Senate to impose disqualification from future office as a penalty for conviction.”..

 

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Chilling Video sure to be presented at trial.

 
 
Full video: https://www.justsecurity.org/74335/fight-for-trump-video-evidence-of-incitement-at-the-capitol/
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They could show a video of Trump executing someone at his rally and his followers would STILL support him, and his followers include a large portion of elected Republican officials. No matter what is revealed at the trial, I don't see how there's any possibility of getting 2/3 of the senate to support impeachment.

The trial I'm sure will reveal things, but I'm not sure it will really change anyone's mind on trump or the republican party.

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2 hours ago, TheMoonisMyLantern said:

They could show a video of Trump executing someone at his rally and his followers would STILL support him, and his followers include a large portion of elected Republican officials. No matter what is revealed at the trial, I don't see how there's any possibility of getting 2/3 of the senate to support impeachment.

The trial I'm sure will reveal things, but I'm not sure it will really change anyone's mind on trump or the republican party.

It's important because of the severity of someone trying to usurp a legitimate election, to keep the matter in the public's eyes, to actually have witnesses as opposed to the last impeachment when the republicans wouldn't even allow witnesses or testimony, to implicate the actions of the republican elected officials who encouraged and possibly participated and to ensure that Trump can't run for any public office again! 

Surely if you cannot impeach someone for instigating an insurrection and the numerous efforts that he made to overturn the results, then I honestly don't see the point of a democracy or further elections! This has to be the deterrent to put a stop to the criminalistic behaviors of the republicans. Especially if it ensnares Cruz, Hawley, hopefully Rubio and any of the other buggers. 

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But the Republicans don't think it was an insurrection, they think they were just exercising their right to assembly and that things might have gotten a little out of hand, or that things are being twisted and turned around, or that there's a grand ANTIFA conspiracy at play, or any of the other lies they're peddling to the public these days. 

While I agree that they be held accountable I just don't think it's going to happen on a large enough scale to enlighten the public or other politicians. The way things are right now I don't see how we will ever get a 2/3 senate majority to back impeachment. There may be a few republican senators that are turning on Trump, but the toxic loyalty his followers give to him is still too strong.

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7 hours ago, TheMoonisMyLantern said:

But the Republicans don't think it was an insurrection, they think they were just exercising their right to assembly and that things might have gotten a little out of hand, or that things are being twisted and turned around, or that there's a grand ANTIFA conspiracy at play, or any of the other lies they're peddling to the public these days. 

While I agree that they be held accountable I just don't think it's going to happen on a large enough scale to enlighten the public or other politicians. The way things are right now I don't see how we will ever get a 2/3 senate majority to back impeachment. There may be a few republican senators that are turning on Trump, but the toxic loyalty his followers give to him is still too strong.

Exactly. 

Our republic may well now survive this modern conservatism that is not bound by laws, rules, or right and wrong.

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With the sting of the Capitol uprising behind us and fading Republicans are waffling a bit.  

https://www.MSN.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-waver-on-convicting-donald-j-trump/ar-BB1d5iOq?li=BBnb7Kz

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