1/3 of my paycheck goes to tax!

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Im dissapointed they deduct so much in my paycheck every 2 weeks. I dont even make that much since I have less than a year experience. Then when I think about those patients that come to the hospital treating me like their own personal servant and on govt insurance. I get irritated. Why? The taxes they deduct on my hard earned paycheck contributes to this patient's hospital stay and in return, this patient treats me like his personal servant. So im paying him so he can treat me like his personal servant. Does anyone feels this way? Not all pt are like this, but theres a couple every shift.

actually in a way, yes, i do. for me, and maybe i'm just an old fashioned gal, there is an expectation of gratitude when getting something so expensive for free especially when i expand it to consider that i'm also kicking in to pay their bill. overall since i work in the inner city poor patients are my mostest favorite but not when they act like they are at a fancy spa in arizona.

sorry but i can't help but think.... yessa massa, i'll get my own drink and bring you one too :uhoh3:

its your *job*. i know i will probably get flamed for saying that, but really i'm so tired of hearing this kind of attitude. no i dont think patients should be abusive or annoying, and yes i think they should realize that you have other things to do and people to take care of. but the simple fact of the matter is, if a poor gunshot victim was strolling his bare behind down the halls looking for drink, toothpaste, or his meds you would have the same problem with him.

why don't we just bring back lynching.... welcome to the er! how would you like to pay? oh, you don't have highly expensive private insurance that is going to end up screwing you over when you get really sick? you know the owner of that company really wants to buy a private island someday!!!! well that's ok sir :) we have just the thing for you!

*gets escorted to the back of hospital* this is called our lynching facility; i'm sure you have heard some of your elders talk about it! now try not to let your eyeballs squirt out onto the floor because we are understaffed on housekeeping! enjoy your stay!!!!

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My mantra is- Thank God I get a paycheck that can be taxed:)

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Specializes in geriatrics.

My mantra is the more you make the more they take ;)

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Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.
A 33% tax rate would mean you're making $209,000 a year or more, a little less if you have state income tax but still well over 6 figures. Even then you would only be taxed at the 33% rate for what you make beyond $209,000. Personally I'd love to be taxed at 33%, the $200 grand a year might make me feel a little better.

Better re-check that. A dual-income household @ $90K gets taxed at 30-odd%.

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Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.
But the simple fact of the matter is, if a poor gunshot victim was strolling his bare behind down the halls looking for drink, toothpaste, or his meds you would have the same problem with him.

In well over 100 shootings worked(ED) & run(EMS), I've only known 1 "poor GSW victim". The rest were, unfortunetely, not shot nearly enough, or accurately enough, and all were more than happy buying the ticket for the lead-ride. So, no, not really my "job", other than society telling me that they should be cared for.

But I am occassionally called heartless...

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatrics.
Better re-check that. A dual-income household @ $90K gets taxed at 30-odd%.

No way. Source?

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Specializes in Med Surg - Renal.
Better re-check that. A dual-income household @ $90K gets taxed at 30-odd%.

Not even close to reality.

The amount of misinformation on the subject of tax rates is mind boggling. And the conservatives are constantly using this false data to get votes.

The tax rates are public knowledge and the math is honestly not that hard. Look up a dual income household say with a mortgage and two kids and figure out their federal tax rates. The others will vary by state, but it still isn't going to add up to 30%.

The only way it does is when goofy yahoos start doing weird math like "Yeah but sales tax is 5% and gas tax is 5%, and clothes is 5% so if the federal and state taxes are 15% that makes 30%"

I swear to goodness, there are many people who look at the sentence above and actually believe it is true.

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Specializes in Critical Care.
Better re-check that. A dual-income household @ $90K gets taxed at 30-odd%.

A dual income family making $90,000 payed a federal income tax last year of $10,194 (less than that if they have kids), that's 11%. An employee's Social Security and Medicare contribution is 5.6%, making your federal taxes and withholdings 16.6%, not 30 something %.

You're probably thinking of the total amount that gets taken out of your check, which doubles when you add in typical health care plans, mine accounts for about 15% of my paycheck. Thank goodness we have a for-profit healthcare system that costs me 15% of my paycheck rather than the 1.4% of my paycheck it costs to cover the majority of the population actually requiring expensive healthcare services (medicare).

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In well over 100 shootings worked(ED) & run(EMS), I've only known 1 "poor GSW victim". The rest were, unfortunetely, not shot nearly enough, or accurately enough, and all were more than happy buying the ticket for the lead-ride. So, no, not really my "job", other than society telling me that they should be cared for.

But I am occassionally called heartless...

I mean poor as in money, not "omg that poor little thing." and no one, including society forces you to take care of them either. You chose a profession where that IS part of your job, whether you like it or not. You also CHOOSE to live in a country that has laws protecting them. You also CHOOSE to work in the ER.

Also, you can CHOOSE to pick one part of my statement and not actually think about the rest. Not all poor people or people on Medicare and Medicaid are gangbanging hoodrats. Unfortunately, it's not only people that abuse the system, it's also people like you that give welfare recipients a bad name because of discriminatory comments and accusations. "oh well if they are on welfare, they must be lazy or drug addicted." I can not roll my eyes enough at that kind of thinking and belittling.

I don't think you are heartless, I think you are absolutely clueless. I'm sure it would be a real comfort to you to have poor people that *do* work (busting their asses in demeaning jobs I might add) all go back to school and "make something better of themselves". Well, take a look at the jobs some of these people have and see if you would actually like to do without their services.

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Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.
Then I feel you are in the wrong business.

As nice as it would be for all patients to be grateful for the care we provide, human being don't always act the way we would like them too........and to suggest that people should behave a particular way based on what type of insurance they have is odd to me.

I don't believe patients sense any correlation between behavior and insurance .....however care providers might....and that is a problem. If you have preconceived notions of the uninsured or you are less tolerant of them, I stand by my words...you are in the wrong business.

And you would be a liability on my unit so perhaps you are in the wrong business.

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Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.
Sorry but I can't help but think.... Yessa massa, I'll get my own drink and bring you one too :uhoh3:

Its your *job*. I know I will probably get flamed for saying that, but really I'm so tired of hearing this kind of attitude. No I dont think patients should be abusive or annoying, and yes I think they should realize that you have other things to do and people to take care of. But the simple fact of the matter is, if a poor gunshot victim was strolling his bare behind down the halls looking for drink, toothpaste, or his meds you would have the same problem with him.

Why don't we just bring back lynching.... Welcome to the ER! how would you like to pay? Oh, you don't have highly expensive private insurance that is going to end up screwing you over when you get really sick? You know the owner of that company really wants to buy a private island someday!!!! Well that's ok sir :) we have just the thing for you!

*gets escorted to the back of hospital* this is called our lynching facility; I'm sure you have heard some of your elders talk about it! Now try not to let your eyeballs squirt out onto the floor because we are understaffed on housekeeping! Enjoy your stay!!!!

Really?? :rolleyes: Maybe you should re-read what I posted and get down off your soap box. All I said is that I think people who are getting cared for on someone's else's buck should be polite. Everyone should be polite but yes it does bother me more when it is someone who is not paying for the services. Simple as that and tough luck if you don't like it. It has nothing to do with whether or not I'm getting someone a drink of water.

Edited: why do I get the feeling you aren't even a nurse?

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Specializes in Spinal Cord injuries, Emergency+EMS.
No way. Source?

actual tax take vs the income tax rate ? taking account of Social security /NI , local taxation etc ....

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