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yelnikmcwawa

yelnikmcwawa

317 Posts

fwiw, from an outsider's perspective, dorimar's comment didn't appear to be doing any of those things.:)

aside from that, i'd say that's a really good offer. i haven't heard of any new grad pay higher than $25/hr currently.

From an insider's perspective, dorimar didn't answer my question at all and instead, started her thread with "why does everyone think that nurses make so much money???" That seems to me like she was complaining about what it was I was asking as opposed to actually answering the question. Her comments had no relevance and were patronizing instead.:mad:

But thank you for your input as far as not seeing anything higher than $25 an hour for new grads...that did actually address my queston. Thanks!

yelnikmcwawa

yelnikmcwawa

317 Posts

There is nothing whatsoever in Dorimar's post that indicated remotely that they thought that you went into nursing "for the money".

Yes, salary is an important aspect of a career....which is why many of us express surprise that YOU did not research this well before investing in years of education, and at least before you job hunted. This is what a concerned person does.

I hate to tell you but newly boarded MDs in residency do not negotiate anything.

Currently, there are thousands of nurses out of work, with your credentials or better - who have worked equally hard. You are indeed lucky. And as a general rule, new grads do not have negotiating power - if you are great, you can negotiate after you have proven yourself. And the pay rate quoted is quite good for a new grad.

It is inappropriate to compare the two.

Dorimar did not answer my question and instead patronized me with a comment about "why does everyone think that nurses make so much money???" That comment had no relevance to what I was asking in my thread.

Secondly, I DID do my research, and from what I have found, many of the nurses I know are making well into the thirties an hour. I have not been able to get any concrete answers about how much a new grad makes, which is exactly why I started this thread!

Thirdly, my comment about doctors negotiating their contracts was not directed towards "new grads". I am personally WELL aware of what doctors go through with their residencies, matching, fellowships, yada yada yada. I was merely talking about the fact that doctors seem to have more clout in general to negotiate salary, and was making an "idealistic world" statement.

But thank you for your comment about the salary I quoted being a good one for new grads. :yeah:

dorimar

dorimar, BSN, RN

Specializes in ICU, Education. Has 25 years experience. 635 Posts

Wow....

Truly meant no offense. Was truly commenting on what I thought was the issue--we should make more, but do not. People think we make more for the job we do, but they do not know that we do not make what we are worth.

If you read some of my prior posts (especially about going into education) you will know that I do not think we make what we should.

You are a bit over-sensitive and rude and I will not be responding to anymore of your posts.

dianah, ASN

Specializes in Cath Lab/Radiology. Has 47 years experience. 9 Articles; 3,541 Posts

thanks to all who have taken the time to respond.

this is just a reminder of the terms of service:

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yelnikmcwawa

yelnikmcwawa

317 Posts

You are a bit over-sensitive and rude and I will not be responding to anymore of your posts.

:rotfl: Hilarious! I mean, would any of us seriously act like this face to face and in public??? Dorimar, I was asking a real question and just didn't care to have you butt into my thread with your comment that didn't actually address my question. I truly wanted answers from other people so I could get a feel for what new grad jobs were offering.

If you knew me in real life you would know that I am anything but too sensitive, and in fact it takes quite a bit to offend me. It's just that graduating is a big deal for me and I have a family to help provide for, and not to mention the fact that I'm tired and jaded from going through all the crap that I've gone through to get here. And these night shifts aren't helping, either. Geeze, lighten up everybody:smokin:

Archer1121

Archer1121

28 Posts

awwwwwwwww! How touching...snif.

Asystole RN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Vascular Access, Infusion Therapy. 2,313 Posts

Wow.

I am a Nurse because I was born a Nurse, I will die a Nurse.

I WORK because I need money.

Everyone understand the difference? Maybe when I retire I will volunteer my time but as any professional I hold unique education, skills, and talent. Those things cost money.

To the OP, $28/$29 is excellent pay for a new grad. I would jump on that as fast as possible.

fromtheseaRN

fromtheseaRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Emergency/Trauma. 464 Posts

Wow.

I am a Nurse because I was born a Nurse, I will die a Nurse.

I WORK because I need money.

Everyone understand the difference? Maybe when I retire I will volunteer my time but as any professional I hold unique education, skills, and talent. Those things cost money.

To the OP, $28/$29 is excellent pay for a new grad. I would jump on that as fast as possible.

i think it's safe to assume that everyone here agrees with all that you said... but this wasn't the old argument of "don't be a nurse for money". dorimar raised the topic that nurses should make way more than they do, and the OP became upset that it was off topic of her original post. so, what i'm getting at is that i'm not really sure what you're referring to here. am i missing something?

Cursed Irishman

Cursed Irishman

471 Posts

I'm surprised their new grad pay is still that high given the surplus; a friend who recently hired onto abrazo is being paid like a tech until off of orientation.

dorimar

dorimar, BSN, RN

Specializes in ICU, Education. Has 25 years experience. 635 Posts

Exactly right. One of my students who just graduated was thrilled to get into the Abrazo new grad program (many did not) and is gladly taking tech salary until the orientation is completed.... and he is very happy about it, as many of his classmates who have gotten straight As, and also sacrificed immensely through nursing school cannot find RN jobs....

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caroladybelle, BSN, RN

Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV. 5,486 Posts

:rotfl: Hilarious! I mean, would any of us seriously act like this face to face and in public??? Dorimar, I was asking a real question and just didn't care to have you butt into my thread with your comment that didn't actually address my question. I truly wanted answers from other people so I could get a feel for what new grad jobs were offering.

If you knew me in real life you would know that I am anything but too sensitive, and in fact it takes quite a bit to offend me. It's just that graduating is a big deal for me and I have a family to help provide for, and not to mention the fact that I'm tired and jaded from going through all the crap that I've gone through to get here. And these night shifts aren't helping, either. Geeze, lighten up everybody:smokin:

Personally, I try to treat people online as I would in person. Something about the "Golden Rule".

You asked a question and it was answered. You intimated a belief that it would be more and then You complain when that issue was discussed.

Perhaps, you should take your own advice about lightening up. Most of us here have families, night shifts, problems, and have gone through"loads of crap" to be here and yet have taken our time to answer and explain, despite the tone you have taken with the others on this thread that will discourage others from posting data that might be beneficial to you.

If you have heard rumors during your research about nursing of higher pay rates (in the 30s), then the logical thing to do would be to go back to your source for data and question them.

yelnikmcwawa

yelnikmcwawa

317 Posts

personally, i try to treat people online as i would in person. something about the "golden rule".

you asked a question and it was answered. you intimated a belief that it would be more and then you complain when that issue was discussed.

perhaps, you should take your own advice about lightening up. most of us here have families, night shifts, problems, and have gone through"loads of crap" to be here and yet have taken our time to answer and explain, despite the tone you have taken with the others on this thread that will discourage others from posting data that might be beneficial to you.

if you have heard rumors during your research about nursing of higher pay rates (in the 30s), then the logical thing to do would be to go back to your source for data and question them.

wait a minute...am i on candid camera??? :jester: seriously, though, i don't understand your comment because my first snippyness was directed at dorimar because she didn't answer my question, but instead basically attacked me for asking about pay. i had a serious question and she chose to butt in on my thread, not answer the question at hand, and make a snide comment about how could i have thought that nurses made so much money. seriously, get over yourself. and how the double hockeysticks do you have time to even make these silly posts on here is you have "loads of crap" in your life???

this thread is getting beyond ridiculous. i asked a serious question and you all turned weird on me. thanks for the giggles, though. peace out:smokin:

i'll make sure to update ya'll on the job situation...you know you want it:p