Patient Abuse/Nepotism

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JKL33

6,465 Posts

6 hours ago, Ethical_RN said:

So its not such a straightforward problem @JKL33 especially when the appropriate authorities to report it to are the ones retaliating against the whistleblowers.

It seems that your subsequent posts contain relevant information that was not available when I replied. (Although many nurses have faced retaliation including job loss from much smaller players than what you are implying).

What everyone is saying is that your only option (according to nursing ethics and the law) is to report and figure out the rest later.

45 minutes ago, Ethical_RN said:

are you saying that pretty much no matter what that when i report this I will most likely have to find a new employer?

Maybe. But the question also is always, why do you want to continue to risk this type of environment anyway? I'm not saying that being terminated would be great or fine, just that you should want to get out of there and practice somewhere that their basic culture of functioning does not place you at inherent risk.

Good luck ~

Specializes in medsurg. Has 11 years experience.

We reported this morning to our direct Supervisor, she said that the abusive nurse is currently under investigation, the "higher ups"are currently conducting patient interviews, the one thing I don't understand is why is this nurse still allowed to work during all of this? Also a little personal background info, I'm newer to this facility and I just started hearing about these instances from co-workers over the last 3 days, I'm also a fairly newer nurse, I obtained my aprn as soon as I was eligible to the program... So not a whole whole lot of experience, so I truly do appreciate the advice you guys have given me on here, it definitely helped when I talked to my supervisor..thank you all(nurses)

TriciaJ, RN

4,295 Posts

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory. Has 42 years experience.

Calls to the BON are anonymous. I would still do that. They will start an investigation that does not depend on the cooperation of management.

Has 12 years experience.
22 minutes ago, TriciaJ said:

Calls to the BON are anonymous. I would still do that. They will start an investigation that does not depend on the cooperation of management.

Honestly I would advise you do this too. Since you say that nepotism rules in that place I certainly would not take "it's being investigated" as an answer!

TriciaJ, RN

4,295 Posts

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory. Has 42 years experience.
15 minutes ago, CharleeFoxtrot said:

Honestly I would advise you do this too. Since you say that nepotism rules in that place I certainly would not take "it's being investigated" as an answer!

Exactly. Investigations of this type usually involve the subject being put on administrative leave. Still working while being investigated for outright patient abuse? Unusual and unlikely. A year from now when it's still going on and you ask about the investigation? "We didn't find any evidence." That's why you need to take it outside the system, like the BON.

OK first off, forget your legal liability for a second. You mean to tell me this woman has left patients in the cold and rubbed muscle cream on someone's genitals and you've done NOTHING? Not only should she not be a nurse, she shouldn't be allowed to touch someone's hamburger. Much less a human. She belongs in jail. I seriously hope you take everyone's advice. I understand you have bills to pay and need a job.

caliotter3

38,333 Posts

Once made a report to the authorities after I ignomiously left a job for being witness to abuse and such. Always wondered what happened. About two or three years later I found out there had been an “investigation”. The ‘complainant’, of course, me, being gone, no one else would breathe a word of truth. The perpetrator must have batted her eyelashes quite well since among other attributes, she was very attractive, and now she was being compensated as an RN instead of an LVN (me, I was unemployed). No good deed goes unpunished.

Puppy Kisses

17 Posts

Specializes in RHIT with a crap load of medical experience..

I am not sure how your state handles issues like these but where I live, you can go online to Department of Health and Human Services and those guys will be at the facility. I would be dropping names, titles, family relationships and everything that has transpired. I would be on their website daily reporting this unconscionable behavior. There are lawyers that only sue SNF and enjoy it. I cannot wrap my head around this. You cannot even hold a patient tightly, that is abuse, especially when it leaves a mark on their thin skin. Please do something.

Golden_RN, MSN

563 Posts

You need to find out the law in your state and for your level of care. In CA at least, reporting to supervisor is NOT considered reporting. In CA for SNF level of care, we call the local law enforcement, ombudsman and dept of public health. The facility has to do an investigation too. Please find out your legal responsibility and protect these patients.

Specializes in medsurg. Has 11 years experience.

One of my co-workers and I have submitted an anonymous report to the BON and ombudsman, I told the Co-worker about me reporting to a supervisor and he said "did you forget about all the nepotism around here" so we ended up deciding to report to the appropriate bodies. Thanks again for all of your advice on this, I will keep you guys posted, I go back go work in 2 days, hopefully that nurse will no longer be working by the time I get back.

Specializes in medsurg. Has 11 years experience.

One of my co-workers and I have submitted an anonymous report to the BON and ombudsman, I told the Co-worker about me reporting to a supervisor and he said "did you forget about all the nepotism around here" so we ended up deciding to report to the appropriate bodies. Thanks again for all of your advice on this, I will keep you guys posted, I go back go work in 2 days, hopefully that nurse will no longer be working by the time I get back.

NotFlo

349 Posts

So all of these instances happened before you started working there and have been told to you by other employees?