Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
Hey Mi Vida Loca,
I couldn't edit the post. So lets jut say trad is 18-29 and non-trad is 30-40.
I am non-trad myself and the most annoying/talkative people in my class are non-trad.
But like you rightly pointed out it's all ages. But the ones that stand out in my mind are non-trad.
Well I started Nursing School at 29 I started my Pre Reqs about 4.5 years prior to that, (my schools waitlist was 3.5 years back when I got on it)
So pretty much anyone in my class that didn't have a prior Bachelors degree (I know that isn't the right spelling) didn't come fresh out of High School because they all had the 3.5 year wait also. Majority of our class is between 26-40
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
At the university I graduated from, they have official designations for traditional and non-traditional students. Traditional is 18-22. 23 and up is non-traditional. They have dorms for non-trad's and you MUST be 23 to live there.
Well then according to this, every student in my class is Non Trad!
I know tons of straight guys that do this same thing and even more girls that do.
No kidding. I've met a lot of people like that. Most of them either don't know they're self-absorbed or they just don't care. Nothing wrong with telling someone a little about one's self, but too much is too much. Some people just LOVE talking about themselves and probably LOVE hearing their voices!
Self-absorbed people get boring afterwards, seriously. I agree this trait has nothing to do with one's sexuality. Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that he was gay? I think the fact that he was gay was the only interesting factor about him :) His views on some things were colorful, like a rainbow! Other than that, he was not interesting at all.
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
No kidding. I've met a lot of people like that. Most of them either don't know they're self-absorbed or they just don't care. Nothing wrong with telling someone a little about one's self, but too much is too much. Some people just LOVE talking about themselves and probably LOVE hearing their voices!
Self-absorbed people get boring afterwards, seriously. I agree this trait has nothing to do with one's sexuality. Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that he was gay? I think the fact that he was gay was the only interesting factor about him :) His views on some things were colorful, like a rainbow! Other than that, he was not interesting at all.
I am confused, didn't you say he said he didn't say he was Gay? It's just an assumption you're making about him based on his personality.
Yes I agree, I can't stand the people that have to make everything about them.
I will tell you that the most annoying in my class in also in the last group. NO filter. No filter at all. I have to brace myself when she pipes up "I know a guy who...", or "at my hospital we do it this way......". The only time I ever heard an instructor say anything was at clinical. She suggested that this student not run around saying "at my hospital we do it this way...".
I think almost everyone in my class is over thirty or nearly thirty except one.
I don't think age has anything to do with their annoyance factor (or should we call it a quotient?).
No. of stories about self X no. of stories about immediate family X no. of stories about "someone I know" / no of weeks in semester = annoyance quotient
I am a non-traditional student myself. I was while working on my first degree also. I don't like to make generalizations but it has been my experience that SOMETIMES the older students tend to ask the MOST ridiculous questions. I hate to say that, but that has been MY experience.
Currently, I have classes with a woman who is probably in her 40's, perhaps closer to 50. I'm not sure and I am NOT good at guessing ages! LOL Anyway, she is constantly asking questions or interjecting commentary on everything the instructor says and it is ALWAYS wrong. Always. I honestly cannot think of one example of a time when she was actually right about something. Sometimes, I want to ask her why she just doesn't give it up....
Specializes in New Critical care NP, Critical care, Med-surg, LTC.
As a non-trad second career student myself I also think there are differences in the annoyances of all age groups. I think that some of the younger students are the ones that appear to be looking for the short way or easy way through. They complain about how so much of the exam was unfair and too detailed- any my professor gives awesome reviews where she pretty much tells you what's expected. Yes, there's a lot of volume, but this is A&P II, we SHOULD know a lot. Some of these younger students also start packing up their stuff and sighing while looking at their watches about 30 minutes before class ends (we're in a 6 1/2 hour Saturday class), and they're the first ones out the door. Those of us in the non-trad category may tend to come across as rude or unsocial. I'm not there to chat, I'm there to work and I'm a bit Type A about my grades. I don't share them with classmates, but anything below an A is upsetting to me personally. I'm not a know-it-all, but I work hard to get through and I will comment when appropriate. We have a couple older non-trads and they range from a bit confused, to all about them, to really annoying. But, I think we've all got our issues and we're all just doing our best to get through. I just ignore it all, or at least I try to.
I will tell you that the most annoying in my class in also in the last group. NO filter. No filter at all. I have to brace myself when she pipes up "I know a guy who...", or "at my hospital we do it this way......". whadda ya think?
You know, I would have to say that - filter is very important. I know it's hard to filter when I'm upset/emotional. I tend to forget to check what comes out of my mouth.
I think nursing students should know that when we talk to our professors, it's not a social conversation. It's not like conversing with someone that was standing behind us, while trying to get on a ride at Disneyland. So in classes, it's the same thing. We are not there so that we can be social with the instructors/students. If friendships develop, so be it. I think that's great.
But, there is a line though. For instance, I think I could've been good friends with my microbiology prof. back then, if I just kept in touch with her. I had her for both lecture and lab. Everytime we talked, it was more 60% social and 40% micro. In lecture and lab classes, we had prof/student conversations. After class though, and when I had to stop by her office, we talked more socially. This professor has been teaching for more than fifteen years. She's very smart yet she doesn't act like it. She has found a way to command respect for her (as a professor) and at the same time, make her students see her as non-threatening. She wasn't an easy prof., she just knew how to present the material in a less difficult way. She told me once that, she taught micro. in a way that she would prefer learning it herself.
Some students (I've noticed) see their professors as the guy/lady that they just had a conversation with in the elevator. Some students are just naturally annoying. Maybe they just feel 'overly comfortable' with some of their professors? The filter factor just goes out the window when they show up for classes.
Hey, isn't Dolcevita some kind of cheese? Isn't that brand name for a cheese product? Just wonderin'
As a non-trad second career student myself I also think there are differences in the annoyances of all age groups. I think that some of the younger students are the ones that appear to be looking for the short way or easy way through. They complain about how so much of the exam was unfair and too detailed- any my professor gives awesome reviews where she pretty much tells you what's expected. Yes, there's a lot of volume, but this is A&P II, we SHOULD know a lot. Some of these younger students also start packing up their stuff and sighing while looking at their watches about 30 minutes before class ends (we're in a 6 1/2 hour Saturday class), and they're the first ones out the door. Those of us in the non-trad category may tend to come across as rude or unsocial. I'm not there to chat, I'm there to work and I'm a bit Type A about my grades. I don't share them with classmates, but anything below an A is upsetting to me personally. I'm not a know-it-all, but I work hard to get through and I will comment when appropriate. We have a couple older non-trads and they range from a bit confused, to all about them, to really annoying. But, I think we've all got our issues and we're all just doing our best to get through. I just ignore it all, or at least I try to.
You sound a lot like me. I often think I come across as rude or unsocial but like you, I'm not really there to make friends. I mean, it is good to make friends at school but the number one reason I am there is to LEARN. I do socialize when its proper to do so but too many people place too much focus on it.
You are right about younger students tending to complain about everything. My nursing cohort starts in August and I hoping HARD that there will be some older students in the program. So far, I only know of a couple others who were accepted and they are of the "OMG, does my hair look okay?" "Omg, my nail is broke! What WILL I do?" and so on and so forth.
The other day we had to pee in a cup for a urine lab in AP2. One of the aforementioned girls was in the bathroom saying, over and over, "Is this enough pee? Is it too much? Should I pour some out? What if its too much? What if its not enough? Should I try to pee more? How much pee do you have? etc etc etc etc
It was maddening. And I will be spending lots of time with this girl over the next 2 years.
The other day we had to pee in a cup for a urine lab in AP2. One of the aforementioned girls was in the bathroom saying, over and over, "Is this enough pee? Is it too much? Should I pour some out? What if its too much? What if its not enough? Should I try to pee more? How much pee do you have? etc etc etc etc And I will be spending lots of time with this girl over the next 2 years.
Lol, I bet you're just sooo super excited to spend time with her!
Nevermind Dolce & Gabbana, Evita Madonna movie... I meant DolceVita.
Apparently, DolceVita. . . you are an Italian fashion line, a restaurant in NY and quite possibly, thirty other things according to Google. None of them has anything to do with cheese.
It seems to me you could almost have put this question as Gen X vs. Gen Y, vs. Baby Boomers. As generations, people tend to share many commonalities that those not of that generation might find 'annoying'...or bewildering...or hilarious...or just absolutely fascinating.
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Well I started Nursing School at 29 I started my Pre Reqs about 4.5 years prior to that, (my schools waitlist was 3.5 years back when I got on it)
So pretty much anyone in my class that didn't have a prior Bachelors degree (I know that isn't the right spelling) didn't come fresh out of High School because they all had the 3.5 year wait also. Majority of our class is between 26-40