Online Support Groups = Trash on Nurses

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I joined a couple of closed support groups for families of PDN clients- some specialty groups like for trach/vent families, certain diagnoses that I work with, etc. I joined with the hope I could get some perspective from the parents, and learn more. Well... they call it a support group but more than half the time they just complain about their nurses. And holy moly, do these people nit pick over everything. They complain about negligent nurses, then the next post is a complaint about nurses who are too conscientious. Nurses that leave them high and dry when there's a foot of snow coming down. Nurses that have the nerve to go on missions to Africa for a month every two years. Nurses that call out sick. Nurses that come in sick. Nurses that don't know everything about their child right away and bug them with questions. And although some of these complaints/vents are valid, then the comments that follow are just a huge barrage of everybody talking about how stupid and clueless and irresponsible their own nurses are. Wow, I just can't believe they can't cough up something nice about their nurses once in a while.

Many of these families don't understand our need to follow the care plan to the letter. Tonight for example, a mom was mad b/c the child was desating and had to be bagged. The MAR states that protocol for that scenario was to call 911. The child was stabilized, but the nurse called 911 anyway. Mom was livid because the stupid nurse just couldn't understand that the child was doing better now and it was no longer necessary. Some of the advice she got was to call the doctor on Monday and change the MAR to state that in the presence of a parent, the parent makes the decision if emergency services are necessary. A lot of the responses just said that the nurse is too nervous, or a spaz, or just plain crazy. It makes me mad because these people have no idea the child's dx, the doctor might have that order in place because maybe he knows the mom is too blase or the child's condition isn't stable. In any event, they had no trouble disrespecting the nurse and her role. I spoke up and stated that if the care plan states that she had to call 911 and there's no concessions to the parents' say, then she has to do it. If she allowed the mom to bully her into not calling, and the child dies, would you be ready to stand up and take responsibility for your decision and not blame her and take her to court? I also recommended that she change the order officially with the doctor's written blessing, this will help the nurse help her. I pointed out that if I were in need of nursing for my child, and I couldn't get a perfect nurse, I'd feel better with a nurse who was too conscientious rather than a negligent one.

Specializes in Peds(PICU, NICU float), PDN, ICU.

Hey! I saw the Africa comment on a board too. Maybe we lurk on the same board. (not naming anything on here though) I was kinda irritated by that moms comments.

I've seen the same thing. I understand the need for parents to vent. There are bad nurses out there and even good nurses with bad work ethic. I get that. But they really bash us and act as if we are the cause of all of their problems. Plus the misinformation shared by these parents is really scary. The ignorant encourage the ignorant to continue in their ignorance. Then we go to these peoples homes and they swear they know better than us. These parents have no idea sometimes. But it really lets us see how the parents really feel about us...no wonder we get treated the way we do. There are some really degrading comments on those boards. Plus they brag about catching nurses on their phones (maybe they are looking up a med or diagnosis) and they brag about firing nurses. As I've said before, these parents should be required to have counseling even they come home with a kid and they need to be monitored by psychologists so they can have appropriate coping skills and behaviors.

Specializes in Pediatric.

CloudySue- I worked for a parent who was constantly staying on these boards- should've been a red flag- sometimes she would tell me some of the more humorous posts. This woman turned out to be psycho, so no surprise there (found out she went through 60 nurses in 1 year)

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Specializes in LTC Rehab Med/Surg.

I was lucky. My short time in PDN involved wonderful parents. They knew more than me about their child's condition, and were patient with my orientation. They never made me feel stupid. They never argued with me over policy. They were exceptional people first and foremost. Having a chronically ill child did not alter that.

They probably belonged to an online support group. Whatever they said there wasn't reflected in the way they treated the nurses in their home.

Specializes in Peds(PICU, NICU float), PDN, ICU.

Just noticed in the same pave that a parent asked if other parents had been discharged by the nursing agency or been refused service. Lots of parents chimed in. One saying the bottom feeder company beginning with M let them go because it was to risky....all I can say is that really must have taken some work to accomplish that!

Specializes in Pediatric.
Just noticed in the same pave that a parent asked if other parents had been discharged by the nursing agency or been refused service. Lots of parents chimed in. One saying the bottom feeder company beginning with M let them go because it was to risky....all I can say is that really must have taken some work to accomplish that!

Oh, WOW. Lol. Well, I knew of a family who got "fired" by "M."

Things that make you go hmmm...

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If I knew what forum you all were talking about here is the post I would make on there:

Guide to keeping nurses/reduce nurse turn over in your home

1. Be polite, be friendly, be respectful - these people are here to make your life easier not take your place as Mom/Dad.

2. Provide a chair for the nurses to sit in. A comfortable chair with a back and arm rests is even better.

3. Provide toilet paper, running water and bathroom use. Science has not perfected robotics yet, in the meantime your assigned nurse will be human with human bodily functions.

4. Remember the nurses are professionals. Give them space to work.

5. Provided internet, cable TV, air conditioning, electric and heat.

6. Once again, remember that your nurses are human beings. If you're ordering out for pizza, let them know and ask them if they'd like to buy something too. If they are coming in a snow storm, shovel a path for them.

Nurses, I am sure you could add to this list!

Specializes in Gerontology RN-BC and FNP MSN student.

Times like this....I remind myself....

I am grateful I work for God not man.

JOB POSTING FOR MIRACLE NURSE:

7 years ago my deaf/blind son was struck by a spaceship. His head was knocked completely off but reattached by doctors. This accident made his severe congenital anomaly/defects flare up. He has seizures for 3 years straight. Now I am seeking a nurse to stand next to my son all day and night. I want nurse to be aware that my son is doing well and any moment he will awaken from his 7 year coma, walk into my arms and reveal to me the meaning of life and the secret to world peace, and probably the cure for cancer. The nurse should be able to perform miracles and help my son to wake up. The best way for the nurse to help this miracle happen is to stand next to my son, roll a ball around on his tray for him and play repeats of game shows and judge Judy.

If you are a nurse that likes to sit during down time, refuses to titrate random medications and feedings per my orders or use the restroom, please do not apply.

Specializes in Peds(PICU, NICU float), PDN, ICU.
JOB POSTING FOR MIRACLE NURSE:

7 years ago my deaf/blind son was struck by a spaceship. His head was knocked completely off but reattached by doctors. This accident made his severe congenital anomaly/defects flare up. He has seizures for 3 years straight. Now I am seeking a nurse to stand next to my son all day and night. I want nurse to be aware that my son is doing well and any moment he will awaken from his 7 year coma, walk into my arms and reveal to me the meaning of life and the secret to world peace, and probably the cure for cancer. The nurse should be able to perform miracles and help my son to wake up. The best way for the nurse to help this miracle happen is to stand next to my son, roll a ball around on his tray for him and play repeats of game shows and judge Judy.

If you are a nurse that likes to sit during down time, refuses to titrate random medications and feedings per my orders or use the restroom, please do not apply.

The first real job ad I've seen for this kind of work! Explained perfectly!

Specializes in Pediatric.
JOB POSTING FOR MIRACLE NURSE:

7 years ago my deaf/blind son was struck by a spaceship. His head was knocked completely off but reattached by doctors. This accident made his severe congenital anomaly/defects flare up. He has seizures for 3 years straight. Now I am seeking a nurse to stand next to my son all day and night. I want nurse to be aware that my son is doing well and any moment he will awaken from his 7 year coma, walk into my arms and reveal to me the meaning of life and the secret to world peace, and probably the cure for cancer. The nurse should be able to perform miracles and help my son to wake up. The best way for the nurse to help this miracle happen is to stand next to my son, roll a ball around on his tray for him and play repeats of game shows and judge Judy.

If you are a nurse that likes to sit during down time, refuses to titrate random medications and feedings per my orders or use the restroom, please do not apply.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

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Specializes in Peds PDN, Med-surg.

LOL Love the job posting! This is one of the many reasons I am getting away from this type of work. I'm not even a year in and I can't take it anymore. I don't know how you ladies and gents do it. Kudos to you! :cat:

LOL Love the job posting! This is one of the many reasons I am getting away from this type of work. I'm not even a year in and I can't take it anymore. I don't know how you ladies and gents do it. Kudos to you! :cat:

Same!

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