Obamacare and hospitals

pmabraham, BSN, RN · Oct 24, 2014

Good day:

Remember this categorical assurance from President Obama?

“We’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year. . . . We’ll do it by the end of my first term as president of the United States” -- Now There Can Be No Doubt: Obamacare Has Increased Non-Group Premiums In Nearly All States - Forbes

Obamacare was rammed through congress by 100% partisan, democrat votes. The American people were consistently and purposely lied to by the democrats and the president.

-- ObamaCare sold on lies

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"

"If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan"

"Families will save at least $2,500 per year"

Lie after lie after lie from the President and the democrats. Those of us who believe anything sold on a lie is a fraud will be dealing with this issue come Tuesday, November 4, 2014.

Thank you.

emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B · Oct 24, 2014

Why do you keep posting the same talking points over and over?

MunoRN, RN · Oct 24, 2014

I've think it's some sort of automated talking point generator.

pmabraham, BSN, RN · Oct 28, 2014

Good day:

Over 200,000 Doctors Avoiding Obamacare Plans | The Daily Caller and per the article the numbers continue to grow. The reason I point out that Obamacare was passed by 100% democrats and the President based on a series of lies they knowingly told is because it does matter, and will matter come Tuesday, November 4, 2014.

Thank you.

MunoRN, RN · Oct 28, 2014

Good day:
Over 200,000 Doctors Avoiding Obamacare Plans | The Daily Caller and per the article the numbers continue to grow. The reason I point out that Obamacare was passed by 100% democrats and the President based on a series of lies they knowingly told is because it does matter, and will matter come Tuesday, November 4, 2014.
Thank you.

Increased competition to reduce costs is a basic premise of conservative reform stances. This is the intended result of that competition; plans weed out providers that charge too much, this is how they reduce costs. If you don't like how that system works, there are other options for reducing costs that aren't based on excluding providers, one is called single payer, which you seem consistently argue for.

Not_A_Hat_Person, RN · Oct 29, 2014

No doctor is required to accept Medicaid, Medicare, or any private insurance plan. Some doctors refuse to accept any insurance. That has been a fact for decades, and will continue to be a fact regardless of which party wins November 4th.

pmabraham, BSN, RN · Nov 1, 2014

Good day:

Obamacare is driving up healthcare costs - Another Obama policy on the ballot: Health premiums are skyrocketing thanks to Obamacare - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com and many more. You have the democrats lying again and trying to hide the information for voters until after the elections.

If nursing is the most trustworthy profession on the planet, why are some nurses backing Obamacare where it was sold on lie after lie after lie after lie? When you sell a service or good on a set of lies, you are committing fraud whether or not it is persecuted as such.

ObamaCare is wealth redistribution, and as such socialized medicine.

In addition to President Obama and the democrats lying about...

If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan.

Families will save at least $2,500 per year.

Obamacare doesn't require individuals who are against murdering innocent babies in the womb to pay for it!

... you have the fact that healthcare insurance does not equal healthcare access. So you have hospitals using their freedom to refuse to accept the insurance, and you have doctors refusing to accept the insurance. Narrow networks, narrow access means that even if pre-existing conditions are covered, so what?

Obamacare kills jobs, hurts the economy as do almost any form of socialism; and it will be remembered Obamacare was 100% partisan (Democrat only) bill that was rammed through congress come November 4, 2014.

Thank you.

elkpark · Nov 1, 2014

Good day:
Obamacare is driving up healthcare costs - Another Obama policy on the ballot: Health premiums are skyrocketing thanks to Obamacare - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com and many more. You have the democrats lying again and trying to hide the information for voters until after the elections.
If nursing is the most trustworthy profession on the planet, why are some nurses backing Obamacare where it was sold on lie after lie after lie after lie? When you sell a service or good on a set of lies, you are committing fraud whether or not it is persecuted as such.
ObamaCare is wealth redistribution, and as such socialized medicine.
In addition to President Obama and the democrats lying about...
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan.
Families will save at least $2,500 per year.
Obamacare doesn't require individuals who are against murdering innocent babies in the womb to pay for it!
... you have the fact that healthcare insurance does not equal healthcare access. So you have hospitals using their freedom to refuse to accept the insurance, and you have doctors refusing to accept the insurance. Narrow networks, narrow access means that even if pre-existing conditions are covered, so what?
Obamacare kills jobs, hurts the economy as do almost any form of socialism; and it will be remembered Obamacare was 100% partisan (Democrat only) bill that was rammed through congress come November 4, 2014.
Thank you.

Allen West is well-known as an irrational kook. And repeating your anti-ACA talking points a kazillion times does not make them any more true (and, by itself, is unlikely to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you).

SC_RNDude · Nov 1, 2014

Increased competition to reduce costs is a basic premise of conservative reform stances. This is the intended result of that competition; plans weed out providers that charge too much, this is how they reduce costs.

Competition? I don't think so. This is a third-party, in an arbitrarily manner, deciding what prices should be. Competition would entail the consumers themselves determining what they will pay for based on not just price, but quality, outcomes, convenience, etc.

The plans are weeding out providers who charge too much??? 70% of California physicians aren't taking the exchange plans. It sounds more the like the providers are weeding out the plans that don't pay enough.

SC_RNDude · Nov 1, 2014

Allen West is well-known as an irrational kook. And repeating your anti-ACA talking points a kazillion times does not make them any more true (and, by itself, is unlikely to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you).

And attacking the source rather then debating the unpleasant facts is a well-known liberal strategy.

The Allen West article is a summary of a study the Washington Post reported on. Whether Allen West is a kook or not is irrelevant.

elkpark · Nov 2, 2014

And attacking the source rather then debating the unpleasant facts is a well-known liberal strategy.
The Allen West article is a summary of a study the Washington Post reported on. Whether Allen West is a kook or not is irrelevant.

It's not a report from the Washington Post, it's a report from the Washington Times, a notoriously right-wing newspaper. Allen West would never take seriously anything published in the WP, let alone publicize it on his website.

And considering the source is a well-known liberal strategy?? Here are links to just a few of the many reports on liberal-leaning websites about how successful the ACA has been. Let me know when you've read and seriously considered them all ...

http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/09/09/13355/benefits-obamacare-simplest-terms

http://kaiserhealthnews.org/news/8-things-young-women-obamacare/

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/1859762-181/pd-editorial-positives-of-obamacare

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/25/obamacare-premiums_n_3984979.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-semro/health-insurance-premiums_1_b_5492220.html

http://www.msnbc.com/the-reid-report/year-later-obamacare-shows-signs-success-and-permanence

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/aca-makes-health-care-more-affordable-Arkansas

pmabraham, BSN, RN · Nov 2, 2014

Good day:

Of course liberals would bash Allen West.

You have Health-Care Hell | National Review Online and Roy Cordato Explains Obamacare :: The Mises Economics Blog: The Circle Bastiat going over the complete mess of Obamacare. You have the President and the democrats trying to hide the massive upcoming rate hikes until after the elections because rather than tell the truth and be transparent about it, they would rather lie and deceive the American public.

More and more doctors are taking freedom into their own hands and refusing to accept any insurance associated with Obamacare. You have hospitals growing in numbers refusing to accept it creating narrower and narrower networks as having health insurance does not equate to access to healthcare.

You have lie after lie after lie being told by the democrats and progressives (another name for liberals) about Obamacare, and it is extremely sad that the most trustworthy profession on the planet has people pushing those lies.

- Obamacare sold on lies, and it will be remembered come Tuesday, November 4, 2014.

Thank you.