History of birth - page 2
Hi all! I'm new here, and I'm a student. Next week, I start my maternal/chilbirth clinical, and I am very excited. Last week in class, we watched a video detailing the way that labor and... Read More
Sep 25, '02Occupation: RN, MS home health Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 7,472; Likes: 49I don't know if they still do this or not but in 1980 I had been given pit, no anethesia by choice going au natural......and the baby was stuck in my birth canal to big, and they took it with forcepts and no pain meds. It hurt like hell. Seems barberic. They also cut my perineum three ways to get him out.......
Some people I talked to said if the person needs forcepts they medicate them. I needed pit IV with all my births and the labors and my quickest one was still over 24 hours..........
Sep 26, '02Joined: May '00; Posts: 2,065; Likes: 8I work at the Ignaz Semmelweis-clinic. So everyday, I walk the grounds "He" did. Is that history enough?
PS: a lot of doctors do breeches here vaginally.
Oct 7, '02Occupation: RN Specialty: 33 year(s) of experience in Labor & Delivery ; From: US ; Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 22; Likes: 7Lets see.....I remember the scopalamine pt's - some of them were wild! they had a "cocktail" seconal, scop and demoral...and we used to sit there and count the respirations....the babies usually needed to be watchedc carefully, once they were "woken up"<sigh.
I remember the 3H enema's ( HIGH,HOT and a HECK of a lot) and pt's not being able to expell in the bathroom ( Hsted lifting THAT bedpan) -- Not to mention dull shaving of the perineum area
Thank goodness for Lamaze and then epidurals ( for those who want them)
Oct 8, '02Occupation: RN-Retired Specialty: 27 year(s) of experience in NICU ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 1,400; Likes: 163My first baby was born in 69, wasn't a nurse and knew nothing about babies, or having them. I was told by the doc that he always did a spinal to deliver the first baby. I remember nothing about my delivery from leaving the labor room. Not till I went to nursing school did I realize I must have been given scopalomine. When I came around, I was flat on my back in bed and kept that way for 12 hours. I didn't see my 9lb 3oz baby till the next day.... he had been delivered with forceps. I also remember having a heat lamp for my epis. Went to lamaze for my next delivery, very quick, NSVD.
Oct 15, '02Occupation: rn Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 14; Likes: 2when I started in OB..I think it was in 1912..just kidding..1976 you were deliverd to L&D by a very nervous ER orderly, Dad was sent to the stork club and the fun began. First you were shaved from your nipples to your knees. Next you were given a 1000cc ss enema. If you didn't have the baby in the toilet, you were placed in a labor room..usually with someone else. Then you were scopolamined or demeroled into oblivion. After laying in the dark in labor, you were moved to the delivery room where you either got to sit up (while 10cms) and given a saddle block or you got to use the trilene mask which was strapped to the back of your hand. Once you inhaled the trilene you were pretty much out so..out came the forceps. Nurses were not allowed to do vagianl exams..only rectal exams..try gauging dilatation that way! it's a really good trick! When I had my oldest in 79, we were doing the Lamaze thing and I made my OB promise not to strap my hands down in the Delivery room. We've come a long way...last week I was squatting in the floor trying to get a fetal heart on my Bradley patient who was kneeling by the bed! Gotta love it! Good luck and enjoy
Oct 17, '02Occupation: registered nurse Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 1,083; Likes: 14things have sure changed
Oct 17, '02Occupation: Currently unemployed, busier than ever Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 42Originally posted by cheerfuldoer
He was the Chief of Ob/Gyn at Camp Pendleton Naval Hospital in Oceanside, CA where my baby girl was born. Boy.....did I feel special! [/B]
Do you still live there or nearby?
Oct 22, '02Occupation: Level III NICU Specialty: NICU ; From: US ; Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 1,605; Likes: 929How about Balboa Naval Hospital in San Diego? ...that's where I was born.
May 4, '04Joined: May '04; Posts: 2Hey all--
Speaking of "the more things change, the more they stay the same", or, in this case, "the more things don't change"...
I work at an urban hospital in texas...for the sake of descretion, I won't say where, but on the OB floor, we have a male doctor who insists on still doing full "preps"--on almost all the laboring mothers he sees. His family was one of the founding families on the original hospital board of directors, and he still has a family member on the hospital's board today...Needless to say, no one wants to cross him.
Anyway, he is not all that old (in his late 40's)--I guess I could understand his certain preferences in this area if he were an older physician, however when he has a patient who is laboring here and if there is time, he orders a mandatory shave--no, I'm not talking about a clipping of the hair for an episiotomy--I'm talking about a good old fashioned "Full Pubic" on nearly every mother he attends. A lot of our patients are hispanic, and for some reason, they seem to be more inclined to have more pubic and perineal hair intact when they come in for delivery. The strange thing about it is, even mothers who come in with almost no pubic hair--which in many cases is the norm these days--wind up having that shaved off if they have the misfortune of being his patient! (I had to perform this on a mother which had no more than a two inch square amount of hair on her abdomen last month, and you can imagine her embarrassment--not to mention mine--when I had to do this!! "Sorry, doctors orders," I said, and then made the lame statement, "In case complications arise and they might have to do a cesarean, they sometimes want to be ready," which made the mom in question start asking why they thought she needed a cesarean, how her first baby was not a cesarean, did they find something wrong with her, etc. etc...(she delivered vaginally about three hours later.) I thought her husband was going to turn blue after turning five shades of red while I was shaving her...
Frankly, I can't believe I'm talking about this, but others on the floor who have been here for years before me have noticed it, too--we're almost to the point of nicknaming him "Dr. Preppy". We're waiting for him any day now to determine cervical dilation--rectally.
Seriously, though, I honestly think it borders on perversion, and I'm not the only one--not to mention his increasing the danger of infection unnecessarily...
Anyone who has worked in the field of medicine, especially nurses, has their own plentiful stories of quirky doctors and their habits, but has anyone else in the OB/Delivery field heard of anything like this, with physician(s) who are or aren't more elderly?
LDR_NurseLast edit by LDR_Nurse on May 4, '04
May 4, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 5,926; Likes: 15Okay this is another case where if I was the patient I would tell the dr. where to go before I would let them shave me! What ever happened to patient's rights? I mean, if it was explained months beforehand and discussed, then I could understand but not just springing it on the laboring woman like that! It's awful!
May 4, '04Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,750; Likes: 16,271Just an thought: maybe, due to the increased risk of infection, in your general OB CONSENTS, for this physician, you include full shave prep procedure, explaining what that means? Then, they can EXCLUDE THAT FROM THEIR CONSENT, SIGNING REFUSAL AT THAT POINT. At that point then, there would be nothing then this doctor could do at this point, but HONOR THE REFUSAL FOR FULL SHAVE PREP? Just an idea, maybe a bit harebrained, but I think it's barbaric and risky, too.Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on May 4, '04
May 4, '04Occupation: Lactation consultant, L&D RN, some postpartum Specialty: OB, lactation ; Joined: Oct '03; Posts: 1,951; Likes: 95My mom had twilight sleep with me in 1971 and she doesn't remember anything. With my sister in 1975, she and my Dad were the very first couple to go to Lamaze and have the Dad in the delivery room at their hospital, they even had their picture on the wall in the unit. That still included all the prepping and everything. With my second sister in 1988, she had basically the same routine as most moms have now. Quite a span!!
My grandma was gassed and of course doesn't remember a thing, they were in big postpartum wards full of women back then also. I know she has told me more details but I can't remember right now.
This is not really birth related per se, but just a tidbit- my grandfather was born at home in 1917 and then was nursed by some kind of 'help' when his mom got typhoid fever shortly after. They were poor & he probably wouldn't have lived if not for her (I've never understood how they had money for "help," maybe even poor people had general help on farms back then?).
May 4, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 5,926; Likes: 15I was just thinking about how my MIL plays up having her four kids and she probably doesn't remember a dang thing! She started in 1956, when my dh was born and ended just five years later, so they probably knocked her out cold. OIY! Now, I can just giggle inside when she talks about it! LOL!