NYC hospitals and diploma holding RNs

-jt · Oct 28, 2003

Pretty much around the city, our diploma programs have been converted to associates degree programs long ago. My hospital's school of nursing diploma program merged its program with a local private college a few years ago, so now our graduates receive an associates degree from that college instead of just a diploma. There doesnt seem to be too many nurses graduating here with just a diploma nowadays, so a new diploma grad would face a lot of competition for a job when everybody else is graduating with degrees. Our vacant positions are posted with the requirement being an RN license. But when it comes to the applicant pool for a hospital job, the RN with a degree would probably have the edge for hire over the RN with just a diploma. For that reason, Id suggest going for the associates.

Then get a f/t job in a unionized hospital & use their union tuition reimbursement program to send you back to school for your BSN -- and the hospital pays for it.

NYCRN16 · Nov 18, 2003

I know the trend now in Manhattan is that some of the hospitals will only hire/prefer BSN new grads. I believe NYU only hires new grads with BSN, thats what they advertise in the paper anyway. If you get experience before you come here, than it probably doesnt matter whether its a diploma, associates or bachelors.

caroladybelle, BSN, RN · Nov 18, 2003

Originally posted by imagin916
I know the trend now in Manhattan is that some of the hospitals will only hire/prefer BSN new grads. I believe NYU only hires new grads with BSN, thats what they advertise in the paper anyway. If you get experience before you come here, than it probably doesnt matter whether its a diploma, associates or bachelors.

With as dire as the shortage is and given the way that they treat nurses with MOT, I think that NYC hospitals should settle for what they get.

live4today, RN · Nov 18, 2003

Originally posted by caroladybelle
With as dire as the shortage is and given the way that they treat nurses with MOT, I think that NYC hospitals should settle for what they get.

I'll second that train of thought!

NYCRN16 · Nov 18, 2003

I agree with the two of you that NYC hospitals should hire any nurses whether ADN, BSN or diploma in order to fill the shortage. But you and I both know that the people that are making this decision cant possibly be nurses, or they would know better than to do this. We as working nurses know that BSN, ADN and diploma nurses all provide excellent patient care. I guess the non-nursing administrators like the idea of having a bachelors degree, I bet it looks "nice" on paper. :rolleyes:

NurseJacqui · Feb 25, 2006

A diploma, ADN or BSN graduate take the EXACT same boards. Diploma program is a lot more hands on and can actually be very beneficial. Regardless of what kind of educational training you have, most of what you learn as an RN is on-the-job anyway.

BeenThereDoneThat74, MSN, RN · Feb 26, 2006

there are plenty of diploma-rns working in nyc...but many of them are, how should i say this...much older. they have many years of experience. also, the old diploma rns got jobs at the hospitals they trained at, so, by the time they were looking for new jobs, they already had experience. the last diploma school in the greater ny area closed around 5 yrs ago (maybe more). this is likely the reason you don't see a puch for diploma-trained rns, as they prob. don't get many new-grads with this training anymore.

i would definitely investigate further before you make any decisions to relocate. i can't see it beong that much of a hinderance. as another poster pointed out, your training is quite different from everyone elses. maybe you'll find a recruiter who was an old diploma rn and will realize what you can do!!