NY post slams NPs

[ryguyRN]

When a nurse is your health-care provider, you’re at risk | New York Post

[elkpark]

[ATTACH]17162[/ATTACH]

Sent from my iPhone.

And I see from the same website that the ANA spent a whopping $1,156,086 in 2014, down from a high of just under $1.8M in 2011, which puts them at well under 1% of the spending of the lowest spender on your list. Gee, yeah, the ANA is really a lobbying powerhouse -- no wonder nursing is getting everything we want!! :)

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000173

[BostonFNP, APRN]

Facts:

Physicians and NP outcomes are comparable across several studies.

The AMA lobby outspends the ANA by a factor of 300.

Or:

Physicians are better because physicians say so and they went to school longer. Anything else is just the product of the evil nursing lobbying dollars.

Oh and by the way: nursing is a more trusted profession

Sent from my iPhone.

[Psychcns]

I read this article on student doctor network before reading it here. It is interesting to hear their perspective, especially not wanting to give up "common diagnoses" being worried that if they only see complex cases they will burn out!

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

Psychrns: I actually have a sympathy for the doctors that high acuity patients, as the ONLY patients they see, will add to physician stress levels which are confirmed by relatively high suicide rates. I have worked with folks who specialized in pediatric anesthesia enter into corporate anesthesia (just a different set of stressors, not less, but they don't know that:) ) and have questioned how long a person can work with critically ill children all day, every day. This is why they get to drive expensive cars. And I think that a diet of high acuity patients is what the docs are going to get in the future, since we can't afford to pay MD's for doing an NP's job. Any answers from the psych perspective?

[Psychcns]

No answers. It seems as there is more overlap between the MD and the NP role the MD's might have to prove they have something different to offer. I recently saw an independent physical therapist and was pleased with her care. In the future people may have more choices, no just MD and NP but everyone else!

[mahaandai]

Quote from NY Post-

"One good outcome of last December's federal budget deal is that doctors' groups convinced Congress to delay the VA's plan to substitute nurse practitioners for primary-care doctors until the risks could be assessed. If only New York lawmakers had shown the same concern for patient safety."

Yeah, right. We know how much safe patients were under Primary Care MD in VA before they considered substituting MDs with NPs in Primary Care. Please spread more lies.

[BostonFNP, APRN]

Quote from NY Post-

"One good outcome of last December's federal budget deal is that doctors' groups convinced Congress to delay the VA's plan to substitute nurse practitioners for primary-care doctors until the risks could be assessed. If only New York lawmakers had shown the same concern for patient safety."

Yeah, right. We know how much safe patients were under Primary Care MD in VA before they considered substituting MDs with NPs in Primary Care. Please spread more lies.

There is plenty of evidence about the "risks". What there is also is a huge money lobby for the AMA.

Veterans should be livid that politicians are blocking access to quality care for money.

Sent from my iPhone.

[BirkieGirl]

i don't know about anybody else's areas, but the area that i live in is experiencing a literal dry-up of primary care docs. NPs are becoming our primary source of providers, and THANKFULLY, you don't have to wait to get an appt for things like a URI, UTI, otitis, etc. It is sad that somebody with ZERO medical background slings such junk around. Of course, that's nothing new...

[wpurn0684]

Nurse practitioners do not claim to be physicians and as any good health provider understands is when to refer to a more knowledgeable healthcare provider. Educate yourself before you speak. As with any profession there are plenty of NPs, PAs, AND MDs/DOs that are UNFIT to practice medicine. don't talk without information to back it up and this article if full of holes in it without any evidence to support it.

[NewYorkerGirl]

I read this article on student doctor network before reading it here. It is interesting to hear their perspective, especially not wanting to give up "common diagnoses" being worried that if they only see complex cases they will burn out!

To add to that: in this idiotic age of paying according to satisfaction scores, Drs are worried about getting paid because more complex patients are going to have worse outcomes, resulting in lower satisfaction scores. This is a valid concern, but the answer isn't to get rid of NPs, the answer is to get rid of patient satisfaction scores.

[AtomicWoman]

Oh, the irony of a newspaper that reprints gossip as gospel telling us that NPs don't produce outcomes as good as MDs and DOs. LOL!