Nursing school too hard on purpose?

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Just my opinion, but schools make it easy harder than it has to be. You can't be a minute late, your uniform had better have 1980's creases, your hair band has to match your hair, some require you to make cards for the drugs you give, you have to plaster on a fake smile, and Heaven forbid you question someone. We had to call everyone at the college by their last names, even classmates. Its ridiculous. Nursing isn't what it was back in Florence's time. Nurse rarely get respect, I've seen doctors and surgeons literally cuss nurses into a corner and nothing is done. Why would anyone want to be a nurse? It's all about covering your butt and throwing others under the bus. Where I work, nurses all seem to hate each other. Constant negativity and complaining about everyone else. Can we please have a nursing school that focuses on the important things, such as giving medications, knowing correct sites for injections, drugs, antidotes and what drugs do to the body, instead of worrying about not having the proper colored hair tie? I had an instructor literally grab my cartilage ring one day because it is small and I had forgotten to take out out. Can someone please explain why it is important to remove an earring to take a test? I've seen people kicked out for forgetting a paper in their vehicle. It seems it would make more sense to allow a person to retrieve a paper from a vehicle than to ruin their career plans because an instructor is on a power trip. Nursing school is no joke, it's cut throat and I don't feel it has to be. You spend way too much time stressing over non-profit critical things and way too little on the big stuff. We were never taught how to do a medication pass, told nothing about narcotics and counting them, not taught how to call a doctor, not taught how to handle families, but we were taught how to "be professional". It's insane how much unnecessary stress is placed on nursing students and how many have been kicked out over small trivial matters. It makes me sick.

Specializes in Pediatrics.

My LPN program was run by an ex-military nurse, and it was everything OP mentioned and more.

The first few weeks, we whined about it.

By the end of the program, we got it.

Nursing isn't about you, or your wardrobe preferences, or your habit of being a couple minutes late, or your propensity to forget your homework in your car, or jewelry you like to wear, or the cute little bow you love in your hair, or your casual way of addressing colleagues, or instant respect from doctors, or your not being treated like the idealized Grey's Anatomy character you thought you'd be. Nursing is about the ability to be professional and absolutely on-point even when blood and guts are raining down on you.

Look at it from another perspective: Boot camp for marines is an endless cycle of making beds, uniform checks, and marching, and much less time learning to kill things. And yet somehow, between the strictness and rigor, they build skills and confidence necessary to function in a dangerous world. Nursing programs aren't nearly as intensive, but I can still see these value in all those things you perceive as old-fashioned, extraneous nonsense.

Hopefully, at the end of your program you will be a better person and a better nurse for all the habits and behaviors they've demanded of you.

As you have said, nursing takes all sorts of people. As an instructor I would LOVE to be able to pass all my students. I do not "weed people out" nor do I think most instructors do. There are two very basic ways to evaluate a student: 1. Can they follow the rules, policies, protocols etc 2. do they possess the skill set required to pass onto the next level.

If clinical starts at 07:00 why do people get upset if they are sent home at 07:01? I do not get it. Why does that rule not apply? Yes it is just 1 minute, but it STARTS at 0700 not 0701. Strict? I guess in some eyes? But that is the rule so why shouldn't you be held accountable? How is allowing someone to come late fair to the students who wake up early and push themselves to be on time? Why should they get the same treatment.

The first day of clinical I sent someone home for being 18 minutes late. One of the other students went to my DON to tell her that she was happy I did that and that there was accountability because she felt it wasn't fair that student got away with so much. So you may think that the teachers are weeding people out when in reality they are upholding the rules.

Specializes in ARNP.

Totally agree...why is that behavior by instructors allowed?

Ivy Tech Richmond Indiana, was encouraging the students to break the law and go against a level 3 weather emergency, which means nobody allowed on the roads. That was very irresponsible of the Dean of the nursing program to let any instructor make such a stupid statement to students; it just shows you the type of people running some of these programs.

Scaring students is part of the weeding-out process that I don't agree with. Some nursing schools would rather waste energy trying to get students to drop out by scaring them or flunk out by not teaching them. Nursing isn't rocket science; nursing schools are only difficult because of the morons who run many of them.

Nursing isn't rocket science; nursing schools are only difficult because of the morons who run many of them.

Nursing school IS difficult and should be. You have people's lives in you hand. It is made MORE difficult with an attitude like this.

I think some of the people need to get over this entitlement mentality and grow up! They are in for a shock when they get into the real world!

Specializes in ICU/ Surgery/ Nursing Education.
Ivy Tech Richmond Indiana, was encouraging the students to break the law and go against a level 3 weather emergency, which means nobody allowed on the roads. That was very irresponsible of the Dean of the nursing program to let any instructor make such a stupid statement to students; it just shows you the type of people running some of these programs.

Nurses show up to work even though the weather is bad. A "level 3 weather emergency" does not negate the nurses responsibility. You can argue that nursing students shouldn't be required to show up during extreme weather conditions, but you miss the point. You are being trained to work in these conditions, not just on sunny days. The facility and nurses you would be shadowing might need the help due to events such as these and the high census it may cause. If you don't want to travel in these conditions then don't, but do not then ensue to make flippant accusations about the people running these programs.

By missing these days you are also missing valuable learning opportunities. If such a thing happens while you are a nurse then you will know what it was like, how to institute changes to make it better, and learn how to perform under extreme conditions just because you will have experience.

If there is a Level 3 emergency and no one should be on the roads, police and fire escort nurses to work.....and I agree with rob post above mine, you are going to have to work in these conditions, school happens anyways....thats like in school and the instructor kicks people out of class because they aren't dressed correctly, it can happen at work too - dress professional, act professional.....come to class on time, prefereably 15 to 20 min before, nothing worse than having people walk in during the beginning of lecture, we have to wait until you sit down get out your materials, etc. Don't get me started on cell phones going off......

Kicking a student out because the school lost his paperwork is grossly unethical and may be grounds for legal action. However, the one minute late thing and dress code is fair game in my opinion. Have you ever worked a job where your shift change is always late? They finally show up but you still can't leave because you have to give report. Dress code? So. Get used to it, and that includes the weird tattoo trend. I have zero problems with lofty standards of conduct so long as those enforcing them are living up to them too.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
My LPN program was run by an ex-military nurse, and it was everything OP mentioned and more.

The first few weeks, we whined about it.

By the end of the program, we got it.

Nursing isn't about you, or your wardrobe preferences, or your habit of being a couple minutes late, or your propensity to forget your homework in your car, or jewelry you like to wear, or the cute little bow you love in your hair, or your casual way of addressing colleagues, or instant respect from doctors, or your not being treated like the idealized Grey's Anatomy character you thought you'd be. Nursing is about the ability to be professional and absolutely on-point even when blood and guts are raining down on you.

Look at it from another perspective: Boot camp for marines is an endless cycle of making beds, uniform checks, and marching, and much less time learning to kill things. And yet somehow, between the strictness and rigor, they build skills and confidence necessary to function in a dangerous world. Nursing programs aren't nearly as intensive, but I can still see these value in all those things you perceive as old-fashioned, extraneous nonsense.

Hopefully, at the end of your program you will be a better person and a better nurse for all the habits and behaviors they've demanded of you.

Too bad I can't like this MORE.

My schooling in PN school was similar; it made me a better nurse. :yes:

Specializes in Prior military RN/current ICU RN..

IS there ANYONE else left you can blame for all your problems? Funny how the vast majority of students make it through nursing school just fine.

You are "bitter"? Do you think anyone really cares? Hard reality is it is a tough world and you need to learn how to survive. NOTHING is fair in life. The fact that you have running water and sewage would probably lend most of the world to say it isn't "fair" that they don't have both of those.

You will never go anywhere if you constantly blame people for your problems. That is a FACT. It isn't being "mean". This is a grown up world and maybe...just maybe you could LEARN from all this that being on time...IMPORTANT...having the proper credentials...IMPORTANT...following the rules..IMPORTANT. You show up late for your nursing gig a couple times and adios amigo. They don't care about your excuses. You should THANK them for teaching you the importance of punctuality. Good luck..you are going to need it in a world of excuses.

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