First off I want to thank anyone and everyone who takes the time to respond to this thread.
I was a senior in my nursing program and was suffering from some pretty bad harassment from an older nursing instructor. After the nursing instructor failed me out of clinicals, I reported her to the Assistant Dean for her conduct and not following the syllabus. The assistant dean told me that there was nothing she could do and that I should see the dean. I went ahead and followed my chain of command, and worked my way up the ladder, but the further I went, the more severe the harassment got. Eventually every single nursing instructor failed me out of clinicals, which was just incredibly devastating to me in my last semester, especially considering the fact that I was passing all the lecture courses. The instructors even went as far as to fail me out for things not stated in the syllabus or things that contradicted the student handbook we were given. I was literally the only nursing student that failed clinicals the entire year.
With all of this said, I have enough evidence for a lawsuit, but I still want to become a nurse, as I have worked over 3 years for this and I am currently able to pass the NCLEX. I have been told that there are some nursing programs that will simply pencil whip the paperwork, so that I can go take my state boards. Has anyone else ever done this or have experience in this?
The ultimate reason she had for failing me out was that my paperwork showed a deficit knowledge in the subject matter
3 hours ago, Timothy Andrews said:
It was for various reason with clinical paperwork,
3 hours ago, Timothy Andrews said:
As far as your questions about charting, that is exactly what I was failed on. In our school, clinical paperwork is a ridiculous process. In most the local colleges, it only takes a few hours to complete clinical paperwork - it took me roughly 13 hours a week to complete it,
Since your clinical time is limited and you cannot be exposed to all situations you need to be competent in to perform consistent safe practice, written assignments are vital. The ability to express your knowledge and application of professional nursing in writing includes accurately providing assessment data, listing your conclusions, describing your plan for care, how you intervened and finally the evaluation of the patient after intervention is important in a practice discipline. While you made the grades needed for lecture, the actual performance of nursing is not about answering a question on a test.
3 hours ago, Timothy Andrews said:
What I do not know is if the court can have them reverse the grades, or if I will need to finish somewhere else. I'm preparing for all outcomes.
Courts are very hesitant to get involved with decisions of competency in college disciplines.
Because I was told to not waste my time at a second attempt, because I'd be failed out again. I was also told they would deny my re-admission, because of poor clinical performance.
You can't simply walking in and take the NCLEX in my state. Each nursing student must have attended and passed a nursing school to sit for the NCLEX.
So I'm not here for legal advice (I have an attorney for that) I'm here searching for a nursing school that will get me in and out with the credit hours and knowledge I currently have.
I would like to ask that you simply stop replying to this post. You have said absolutely nothing of value, steered completely off topic and made completely unnecessary and meaningless comments.
Your thinking and reading skills are in baffling to say the least.
No, you're bluffing. You don't know how to present your cases. If you have cases, you should have no problem hiring a lawyer, especially if your school is a private school.
I kind of explained it above. It was for various reason with clinical paperwork, which were either left out of instructors, syllabus or against our handbook, but the underlying reason was harassment.
Talks with this teacher were short lived and usually involved her screaming at me in front of peers and nursing at the hospital.
Give a specific example. Did your CI "screaming" at you because you were jeopardizing your patient's safety? What did you do? You were perfectly minding your own business, and your instructor specifically called you and started "screaming" at you?
So I'm not here for legal advice (I have an attorney for that) I'm here searching for a nursing school that will get me in and out with the credit hours and knowledge I currently have.
I would like to ask that you simply stop replying to this post. You have said absolutely nothing of value, steered completely off topic and made completely unnecessary and meaningless comments.
Your thinking and reading skills are in baffling to say the least.
If this were actually true, you would have shared nothing of your story and simply said you were looking to see if there were nursing schools out there where you can transfer in your completed coursework.
Instead, you included bits and pieces of your version of the events and when people tried to understand more, you got defensive and nasty.
Your question has been answered several times, it is extremely unlikely that you'll find a program that will transfer in your completed coursework. Furthermore, unless your program is different than most, you have to complete both the clinical portion AND the classroom portion in order to pass each individual course. If you were failed out of all of your clinicals as you described, then you probably don't have any completed coursework to transfer.
If you have a case to sue and get back into your program, go for it, otherwise you're probably going to have to choose to start all over or find a new line of work.
there are some nursing programs that will simply pencil whip the paperwork, so that I can go take my state boards
What does "pencil whip" mean? Surely you don't want to be passed because you paid tuition although you did not meet the objectives...or do you? If you want to protest your failure you better have your clinical evidence to back up your passing the objectives [emphasis added].
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I've only heard this expression used in the military, or by veterans, and that is exactly what it means.
I have been told that there are some nursing programs that will simply pencil whip the paperwork, so that I can go take my state boards.
1 hour ago, chare said:
I've only heard this expression used in the military, or by veterans, and that is exactly what it means.
Thank you. I should have 'googled' it but the use of the term to say that a nursing program would provide documentation that a graduate is safe, has completed a nursing program satisfactorily and is ready for NCLEX is scary. Protection of the public (patients) be d*****. Where do people get these ideas?
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Pencil Whip: To approve a document without actually knowing or reviewing what it is that is being approved. (idiomatic) To complete a form, record, or document without having performed the implied work or without supporting data or evidence.
Since your clinical time is limited and you cannot be exposed to all situations you need to be competent in to perform consistent safe practice, written assignments are vital. The ability to express your knowledge and application of professional nursing in writing includes accurately providing assessment data, listing your conclusions, describing your plan for care, how you intervened and finally the evaluation of the patient after intervention is important in a practice discipline. While you made the grades needed for lecture, the actual performance of nursing is not about answering a question on a test.
Courts are very hesitant to get involved with decisions of competency in college disciplines.
There seems to be a pattern with these forums; When asked a question, I keep seemingly getting irrelevant responses.
I'm not arguing with this group about why I failed out. Syllabus conditions (reasons they listed for failing) and nursing handbook policies (what happens when you fail) were violated.
What I wanted to know was if there was a nursing school that easily accepted transfers, where they could verify their knowledge and abilities and easily graduate.
As far as your opinions toward academic lawsuits - a quick Google showcases quite a bit of winning lawsuits by male students, who suffered academic unfairness and harassment (this seems like a reoccurring pattern.)
Thank you. I should have 'googled' it but the use of the term to say that a nursing program would provide documentation that a graduate is safe, has completed a nursing program satisfactorily and is ready for NCLEX is scary. Protection of the public (patients) be d*****. Where do people get these ideas?
Let me clarify again, I passed the lecture portions and most of the clinical rotations. The reasons for "failing me" were either not listed in the syllabus or against the syllabus. This was only ever a problem, after began being harassed by a teacher and reported her.
My knowledge isn't a problem, harassment was, and the NCLEX is what will demonstrate that I am safe and competent. I'm just looking for a nursing school that will view my performance in clinicals, and give me the approval to test.
If this were actually true, you would have shared nothing of your story and simply said you were looking to see if there were nursing schools out there where you can transfer in your completed coursework.
Instead, you included bits and pieces of your version of the events and when people tried to understand more, you got defensive and nasty.
So lets go ahead and talk about your logic and reasoning...
"If it were true, you would have shared nothing"
I shared the bare minimum to avoid having to go on an irrelevant, five page assignment on how I was harassed and discriminated against. I'm not here to share my legal business, yet again... this information is irrelevant.
"tried to understand more, you got defensive and nasty."
People didn't "try to understand more." Your village idiot walked in, made three replies about why I was lying without any sort of reason, and walked out without any constructive remarks.
I apologize, I don't do well with false accusations and stupidity.
Move on. Find a new school or, frankly, a new line of work. There are more red flags here (about you, not about the school) than a Chinese parade.
*slow applause*
Did it take your a while to think of that insult? Bravo!
I want to point out the fact that a student comes here for help, after suffering from harassment, and the first thing a group of nurses do is victim blame. The fact that a bunch of nurses can jump on here and immediately start slinging insults is astonishing - are you sure you are in the right profession?
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There seems to be a pattern here:
Since your clinical time is limited and you cannot be exposed to all situations you need to be competent in to perform consistent safe practice, written assignments are vital. The ability to express your knowledge and application of professional nursing in writing includes accurately providing assessment data, listing your conclusions, describing your plan for care, how you intervened and finally the evaluation of the patient after intervention is important in a practice discipline. While you made the grades needed for lecture, the actual performance of nursing is not about answering a question on a test.
Courts are very hesitant to get involved with decisions of competency in college disciplines.