Quote from hppygr8ful
The term "Safe smoking" is an oxymoron as their is no such thing. However the LTC where I worked smoking was considered a patient's right. We had a small patio with a patio heater. We already had a large number of private pay consumers who were paying between 6 to 9 thousand dollars a month. Management would just about bend over backwards to keep them from leaving as the Single Payer system (Medicare/Medicaid) paid significantly less. We would take turns taking them out in small groups 2 to 3 consumers. Nicotine forms a powerful addiction with withdrawal symptoms. Dealing with the fallout of not letting these folk most of whom are terminal smoke was worse than 10 minutes on the patio. To be fair though I live in Southern California where the coldest we ever get at night is high 50's to low 60's.
Yes. Hence the use of quotation marks.
The issue isn't whether people should be allowed to smoke. Smoking is legal.
The question is whether or not others should be compelled to accompany them and/or facilitate such an unhealthy practice in the course of providing healthcare. Patients make their own autonomous decisions all the time against recommended medical advice, but generally-speaking healthcare providers are not required to assist them in doing what we clearly know beyond all doubt to be dangerous to patients' health.
This is not an AFC.
Quote from ChryssyD
As a former smoker I can tell you that there is no such thing as too cold to smoke. The addiction to nicotine will enable you to endure almost anything--freezing temperatures are not a deterrent. So the aides will just have to suck it up and supervise the residents, no matter how cold it is. It isn't fair, but as long as smoking is considered a right (as it should be, much as I hate to say it), we'll just have to accommodate it.
Me, I work in a state facility where neither staff nor patients can smoke. Smoking is legal, so I'm a little uncomfortable with the situation, but, again, as a former smoker, I'm not totally unhappy. Smoking is bad. It really is. But, as long as it's legal, can we really forbid people their right? I don't know...
That is quite the conclusion and I will have to call BS on it.
It may never get too cold for a smoker to smoke, but I assure you it can get too cold to watch someone else inhale toxic substances for their own personal pleasure.
Big difference between allowing and facilitating (at someone else's expense or inconvenience, nonetheless).
Some of this comes back to arguments about what are "rights." Is smoking a right just because it is legal? If so, what are we doing to facilitate equal smoking opportunity for all?
We forbid people the right to smoke in all kinds of situations...
If anyone was concerned about people's rights with regard to this issue, there would be an area for someone to go out to smoke, and a way to monitor them without being in contact with either second-hand smoke or the elements. If we can put up cameras everywhere to watch what nurses do, I'm pretty sure we could use a camera to monitor the smoking area, for instance.