Nursing Is No Longer Worth It

Nurses are treated like expendable pieces of meat that are readily replaced like a disposable dead battery. Covid-19 is the straw that has finally broken the camel's back for me and now I'm ready to leave nursing completely. You only live once in this life. If you happen to discover this article and you're considering a career in nursing, I would urge you to turn around and look elsewhere. Nurses COVID News

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I'd Like To Tell You A Story

I've been a member of Allnurses for nearly a decade. It's a little surreal to contemplate that amount of time but I vividly recall writing posts in the pre-nursing students section pleading for help in Anatomy and Physiology.

A decade! Time really flies.

Given my involvement in this forum over the years, I created this new username to remain anonymous and to speak freely about my opinions and feelings about nursing.

In the beginning, nursing was an exciting, interesting, and thrilling career. As a student, I would spend extra hours delving into extra readings about A&P and care plans. I would tutor students and help anyone that I could. I even volunteered in a local hospital to get more exposure.

I was addicted to the idea of becoming a nurse!

As a newly minted nurse, I loved connecting the pathophysiological dots at the bedside and helping the providers make well-informed decisions by providing them with valuable assessments and up-to-date patient data.

I've worked in many specialties over the past 7 years but my primary focus has been pulmonary step down. I've traveled all over the country and worked in a variety of hospital systems big and small.

I've helped save lives through rapid responses, code blues, administered vital medications and important treatments. I've teamed up with fellow nurses to help them catch up on meds or other tasks, then find ourselves at a local diner for an early morning post-shift breakfast.

Those are the best!

I've also experienced a significant amount of pain and agony. I've seen more patients die than a I care to count. I've listened to hearts stop. I've seen heart die on monitors. I've watched people take their last breath completely and utterly alone in this world.

I've laughed, cried, and been stunned. A host of emotions over the years.

When I was done working acute care, I transitioned to ambulatory nursing and started triaging patients in a variety of specialty clinics. This was a weird shift because I thought ambulatory nursing where were lazy nurses go or older nurses go to finish out their career. I found that outpatient nurses were just as hard but simply in a different way.

I even found myself in a nursing supervisor position where I currently reside. Something I never would have thought I would have found myself in. I even tried to talk my boss out of it when she first approached me about it because I thought to myself, "You must be crazy! Why would you consider me?" I am grateful for the opportunity ultimately.

Something Has Changed

There was a time where I absolutely loved the nursing profession and my place in it. But, something changed along the way. Burn out? I have my doubts it's that simple. This feels more definitive than the insidiousness of Burn out. This feels more permanent than burn out.

Over the past couple years, I've really questioned my place in nursing. Is this profession for me? Was it ever? Is it worth it anymore? I think Covid 19 really pushed me over the edge and was the straw that finally broke the camel's back.

Here's The Bottom Line To Me

  • If I had to do it over again, I would not choose nursing as a profession.
  • Nursing is no longer a profession that is worth pursuing and if a person would ask, I would recommend they choose something else.
  • While there was a time when the love of the patient was what did it for me, ultimately, at this time in my life, nursing is no longer worth it because we are completely undervalued, underpaid, underappreciated, and understaffed.
  • We are forced into dangerous scenarios with massive liability with compensation that doesn't match the risk we take as professionals and individuals.

Hospitals Just Do Not Care

While they give the facade of caring, healthcare organizations and hospitals ultimately don't care about you and your well being as a professional nurse.

Hospitals don't want quality. They want the appearance of quality but in actuality they want quantity. They want more with less in even lesser time. More patients. More calls. More responsibilities. More liability for you. More destruction on your physical and emotional well being. You are treated like a disposable piece of equipment with a short shelf life.

And, when it comes down to it, your professional and personal butt is totally on the line and if you screw up, there will be every effort to blame you, avoid organizational liability, and throw you under the bus.

Don't ever believe your hospital is there to back you. Consider yourself fortunate if you happen to find a manager that will stick their neck out for you and back you when the **** really hits the fan.

The PPE Crisis We're Facing Is Unbelievable

It's shocking to me that our hospital "leaders" didn't have the wisdom or foresight to have massive stockpiles in place. Now, nurses and providers are force to buy PPE on-line (impossible currently), wear the same PPE over and over, or not have any at all. This is a clear example of the failure of leadership all over the country and the clear lack of consideration for the front line worker's safety. Of course, nurses aren't the only one feeling this pain.

Nurses Are Severely Undervalued And Underpaid

We take massive liability when we're administering medications and implementing the plan of care. Yet, where's the pay? When you try to negotiate your pay with HR, you're going to get a giant middle finger. Organizations have standardized pay scales and there is zero room for negotiation. Nurses have zero pull when it comes to pay negotiation.

My theory about pay is that nurses are a cost to the healthcare system. You are not a financial asset like a provider who has billable treatments and procedures. We don't bring in revenue to the organization. Therefore, nurses don't have negotiation power. Yet, we're somehow sooo "valuable?"

Don't buy us pizza, baked goods, and crappy nurse's day prizes. Give us better pay and better benefits. That is the way to create loyalty. Yes, nursing is also about providing a service to the patient but if you're a valuable, highly trained, highly skilled, and highly knowledgeable professional, you should be paid adequately. Period.

Here's a current representation of the pay issue. I'm seeing travel nursing contracts for $4,000-$8000 per week in some parts of the country. That's crazy money! The organization I presently work for is "volun-telling" ambulatory staff to either "go acute care or use PTO/unpaid leave." However, when these staff to go in-patient, they don't receive temporary differentials or hazard pay.

Furthermore, the acute care nurses taking care of Covid patients aren't receiving hazard pay either even though they are reusing PPE and taking care of dangerous patient populations. So we're going to pay travel nurses six figures? But, when you force nurses back into acute care or not adequately pay acute care nurses, that's supposed to be okay? Think again.

Nursing Isn't Worth It Because Of The Liability

I've traveled in certain locations where nurses were taking care of 10 patients at night on an acute cardiac unit.

Unbelievable. Talk about liability.

I'm not going to go into it now but if you practice nursing without professional , you're basically having unprotected sex but expecting not to get pregnant.

Why do you think providers have professional ? Yes, nurses get sued to and remember what I said above about hospitals throwing nurses under the bus? It's literally pennies a day for peace of mind. If you have any valuables or assets in your life you wouldn't want to be taken away, you need professional liability insurance.

Nurses Are Part Of The Problem As Well

The nursing culture is full of malignant toxicity, backstabbing, and bullying people. It's vial and toxic and incredibly hard thrive in.

I have rarely seen a unit or clinic act in a cohesive, team-based manner. My professional career has only been in nursing so I'm not sure how other professions are. However, most places I have been to, have been the same.

There are many nurses that bring their contagious negativity to the bedside and to the clinics. It's distracting and disturbing to be around and it has taken a toll on myself and I know it has on others around me. I'm speaking in generalities of course because not ALL nurses are like this but it's fairly common. Just spend a half a day on a nursing unit and you'll quickly notice who those problematic people are.

I once had hope for the nursing profession that someday they would come together and help change it for the better. There's what, about 3 million nurses in the country? That's a lot of voices. We're too busy bickering amongst ourselves to ever truly come together and create meaningful change.

Bickering, backstabbing, and bullying is easy. Coming together with a cohesive voice to promote real change in the nursing profession is hard and it will never happen in my opinion.

I guess I could go on and on about the failings of the nursing profession but I'll leave you with this:

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Nurses are treated as expendable pieces of meat that are readily replaced like a disposable dead battery. You are severely under paid for the skills and knowledge you bring to the table. Hospitals don't give a crap about your well being even though they say the do.

Nursing Is No Longer About The Art Of Nursing

  • It's about the numbers.
  • The output.
  • Doing more with less in less time.
  • The satisfaction scores.

You only live once in this life. If you happen to discover this article and you're considering nursing, I would urge you to turn around and look elsewhere.

Nursing isn't worth the risk and the personal effects it has on your life.

Specializes in Dialysis.
4 hours ago, GordonGekko said:

Please tell me one Bachelors degree that starts at 150k.

Many moons ago, 1 started at 125,000. Early 90s, bachelor in computer science, software development. I worked for a 911 database development company, and did that until they outsourced to another country. I took a huge paycut and moved to nursing. But it was better than unemployment. While it wasn't 150 grand, I'd say the money of the early 90s would say it's about the same or more. 

Specializes in MSN, FNP-C, PMHNP, CEN, CCRN, TCRN, EMT-P.
13 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

Many moons ago, 1 started at 125,000. Early 90s, bachelor in computer science, software development. I worked for a 911 database development company, and did that until they outsourced to another country. I took a huge paycut and moved to nursing. But it was better than unemployment. While it wasn't 150 grand, I'd say the money of the early 90s would say it's about the same or more. 

So you still had the Bachelors though.  Why didn't you just find another 150k/year job with that since its so easy.

I am very thankful for nursing.  Prior to my first RN job I was making $8.80/hour as a firefighter/paramedic.  When I went up to $26/hour + diffs my world changed.

Specializes in Dialysis.
17 hours ago, GordonGekko said:

So you still had the Bachelors though.  Why didn't you just find another 150k/year job with that since its so easy.

At that time, all of those great paying jobs became outsourced to other countries, as they could pay them less than half, that's why. I still have that Bachelors. I can't use it, too outdated. I don't care enough to go update, although I still program a little for my dad's family business.

I flipped to nursing rather quickly, but to this day, I still tell the younger generations to run. It's nothing like it was when I started 

You did say another Bachelors couldn't provide the same. While it wasn't forever, it did for a few years, so I guess you were wrong on that count. In some areas, that same Bachelors can get that, it does happen. Also some engineering degrees.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

I have told my kids nursing may not be a great career for them. My son went to technical school and is being paid well to do his job. Daughter got her general ED degree but still is thinking about nursing. Told her, go for her NP and look for work in military installations. I would rather she not enter nursing, but it's up to her in the end.

There is always tech/trade school. One does not have to go a zillion dollars in debt for a 4 year uni degree to get skilled and well-paid work out there.

Specializes in Surgical Specialty Clinic - Ambulatory Care.

“We are forced into dangerous scenarios with massive liability with compensation that doesn't match the risk we take as professionals and individuals.”

”…and if you screw up, there will be every effort to blame you, avoid organizational liability, and throw you under the bus.”

I agree with you on all levels and I find it frustrating that the first 3-4 responses are “well be a capitalist and find the job that suits you best, the great thing about nursing is all the different things you can do!” 
 

That is the point. I did all the job changing and found nothing that I could tolerate for more than a year or two without the hospital trying to invade my personal life with committees, extra education, mandatory over time, and staff meetings….not to mention that nurse schedules are just kinda sucky regardless (and I’ve done the 12 hour, 8 hour, and salaried thing.) 
 

It has boiled down to this for me. I don’t want to be a manager because I don’t want to be available all the time. I don’t want to be an administrator because I don’t want to be available all the time. I don’t want to get an FNP or MSN because while their work is different than an RN, it isn’t THAT much different and it is even MORE responsibility/liability with the the FNP being a scape goat as well. And more student debt for not really all that much more pay. I don’t want to be an educator because I don’t want more student debt and they get paid the same amount I am already making as a floor nurse? Why would I spend money to make the same salary I already do?

So interestingly nursing, with all it’s expanse, is most stagnant when it comes to “moving up”. There isn’t anywhere to grow and escape the drudgery, abuse, poor life balance or poor compensation.

 

 

Specializes in oncology.
11 hours ago, KalipsoRed21 said:

There isn’t anywhere to grow and escape the drudgery, abuse, poor life balance or poor compensation.

I truly understand your frustration....but what DO you want to do in health care?

 

11 hours ago, KalipsoRed21 said:

I don’t want to be an educator because I don’t want more student debt and they get paid the same amount I am already making as a floor nurse? Why would I spend money to make the same salary I already do?

Is salary the defining factor?

13 hours ago, KalipsoRed21 said:

“We are forced into dangerous scenarios with massive liability with compensation that doesn't match the risk we take as professionals and individuals.”

”…and if you screw up, there will be every effort to blame you, avoid organizational liability, and throw you under the bus.”

I agree with you on all levels and I find it frustrating that the first 3-4 responses are “well be a capitalist and find the job that suits you best, the great thing about nursing is all the different things you can do!” 
 

That is the point. I did all the job changing and found nothing that I could tolerate for more than a year or two without the hospital trying to invade my personal life with committees, extra education, mandatory over time, and staff meetings….not to mention that nurse schedules are just kinda sucky regardless (and I’ve done the 12 hour, 8 hour, and salaried thing.) 
 

It has boiled down to this for me. I don’t want to be a manager because I don’t want to be available all the time. I don’t want to be an administrator because I don’t want to be available all the time. I don’t want to get an FNP or MSN because while their work is different than an RN, it isn’t THAT much different and it is even MORE responsibility/liability with the the FNP being a scape goat as well. And more student debt for not really all that much more pay. I don’t want to be an educator because I don’t want more student debt and they get paid the same amount I am already making as a floor nurse? Why would I spend money to make the same salary I already do?

So interestingly nursing, with all it’s expanse, is most stagnant when it comes to “moving up”. There isn’t anywhere to grow and escape the drudgery, abuse, poor life balance or poor compensation.

 

 

I remember when this topic came out back in April 2020 and not surprised it’s still going.  I understand your frustration and this isn’t exactly a blanket statement I am about to make but pretty close.  Healthcare working environments especially hospitals and LTC facilities are toxic work environments.  Full stop.  What is more valuable to your own life.  Is it time or money? Nurses should know the answer to that more than anyway.  

Specializes in Surgical Specialty Clinic - Ambulatory Care.
12 hours ago, londonflo said:

I truly understand your frustration....but what DO you want to do in health care?

 

Is salary the defining factor?

I want Healthcare to actually be health care. It isn’t, it’s capitalism at it’s worst. 
I want to be at work as little as possible and I don’t want to watch people die anymore or do bedbound care. I want to do the absolute bare minimum as a nurse employee and retain my employment. 
 

No, certainly salary isn’t everything. But I am the only income for my 2 year old and my husband. We are frugal, but you know $80k gets you like just barely a middle class life. We are making it but I won’t be able to give my daughter the enriched upbringing I had. No music lessons, tumbling or cheer. Hell I still haven’t completely paid off having her. And I am having to skirt on things I normally would do for basic health maintenance like going to the eye doctor annually, the dentist every six months, no monthly massages for my husband who has severe arthritis. I have the highest coverage insurance my employer provides, but the co-pays are still like $100 for the both of us if we go at the same time. Which is the most convenient thing to do so we can trade watching the kid.

I’m not saying $80K is impossible to live off of. But as my father was a high school graduate and was able to afford these things for his family. I did expect that a 4 year college degree would end me up with employment that would at the very LEAST cover the same standard of living I had as a child for my family now, and it doesn’t. Not unless I “move up” or go into more debt for a masters. And I really just don’t see myself doing any of that.

Specializes in Surgical Specialty Clinic - Ambulatory Care.
10 hours ago, nottheproblem said:

I remember when this topic came out back in April 2020 and not surprised it’s still going.  I understand your frustration and this isn’t exactly a blanket statement I am about to make but pretty close.  Healthcare working environments especially hospitals and LTC facilities are toxic work environments.  Full stop.  What is more valuable to your own life.  Is it time or money? Nurses should know the answer to that more than anyway.  

Of course nurses know the answer better than almost any other career. But you still have to pay your bills and support your kids. Even living as frugal a life as I do, there is little left for an emergency (brake line rusts out in your car and has to be replaced and so you are dropping $400 unplanned) or for savings. I would have expected a 4 year degree career would have an income that would allow for such things even on the bottom most rungs and surprisingly it does not. 

No judgement on decisions made in nursing.  Just to people not being completely honest about the reality of the situation.  If ones very happy with their career then that’s great.  Some appear to thrive in the field.  I just can’t be convinced that Nursing in general is not pervasively a toxic field to work in.  I gave it over a decade of my life to doing the best I could at patient care.  It’s truly a critical essential job for our society so I wish it would be treated as such. For those who say they can’t get out I truly get that feeling.  I was wanting out about as soon as I got in but I kept hoping and thinking there would be better days ahead but it just got worst.  I saw how hard it was on the older nurses and noticed nobody in my particular area was over the age of 60. I knew I would not be able to retire doing that particular job.  Age discrimination is real and I think particularly in Nursing.

Having said all that.....to keep a roof over my head and food on the table I would do whatever it took to ensure my family was taken care of financially.  If out of options it came down to the crappiest nursing job out there I would do it.  Just got to be realistic about what I would be getting into to. 

Specializes in Hospice, corrections, psychiatry, rehab, LTC.
On 4/14/2020 at 8:35 AM, 2BS Nurse said:

"Don't buy us pizza, baked goods, and crappy nurse's day prizes. Give us better pay and better benefits". Yes, this is insulting. How about the piece of clothing that's free advertising?

One year we were given cheap plastic retractable pens with the hospital's name on them. I'm sure that they got them for pennies buying them in bulk, and I hadn't thought about the free advertising, but it is self serving, isn't it?

"I saw how hard it was on the older nurses and noticed nobody in my particular area was over the age of 60. I knew I would not be able to retire doing that particular job.  Age discrimination is real and I think particularly in Nursing."

All of that knowledge not being passed down to the next generation of nurses. What a waste. Every older RN should be given the opportunity to teach.