JUne 06 : Retake All?

Aquarian · Mar 16, 2007

C'mon, vonjex! You can do it! Save the best for the last!!!

Rep · Mar 16, 2007

hmm. well im with all ive read here. i think im inclined to waive my license and take the entire exam too. having passed both the tainted june '06 exam and the NCLEX just recently. i do hope chances are i'll pass a retake of the entire exam too.. sigh.. and i thought after passing the IELTS last month that im finally done with all these exams. guess not..

Go for it!!!!

lawrence01 · Mar 16, 2007

C'mon, vonjex! You can do it! Save the best for the last!!!

:yeahthat: Good luck, vonjex

sayrah_85 · Mar 16, 2007

I really dont want a retake.. i dont care if it's for the best.. i wouldnt waive all my test results just for the heck of it. I did my best and I did not cheat.. Why do i have to suffer? Is it my fault that i passed the June06 NLE? This issue has been draining out my patience and it delays all my plans...

I'm sorry if this statement makes u feel uncomfortable in any way.........

I just want to ventilate my feelings....i am too angry.. i guess too furious with the previous Bon members.... oh gosh, i really wana cry!

jennypanic · Mar 17, 2007

I really dont want a retake.. i dont care if it's for the best..

Then you're not thinking outside the box. But to be furious is also understandable.

suzanne4, RN · Mar 17, 2007

I really dont want a retake.. i dont care if it's for the best.. i wouldnt waive all my test results just for the heck of it. I did my best and I did not cheat.. Why do i have to suffer? Is it my fault that i passed the June06 NLE? This issue has been draining out my patience and it delays all my plans...
I'm sorry if this statement makes u feel uncomfortable in any way.........
I just want to ventilate my feelings....i am too angry.. i guess too furious with the previous Bon members.... oh gosh, i really wana cry!

Be furious with the members of the BON there, as well as the review centers that were at the center of the leak and are still open and doing business as usual. Shame on them, life goes on as usual for them

:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

But make yourself bigger than them, you have a future in front of you. They do not. They will be stuck with what they are doing and without any chance of moving up to do anything. They are not wanted in any other country for their behavior in yours, and could not get a job anywhere else.

Look at that way.

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But you are just starting your career. And a retake is what you will need to do if you wish to work in the US. If you want to go to another country, that is your choice. But the US has been stating all along that there would be a retake that would be required. The employers want a full retake, I woudl follow what they want. Not what your government states that you should do at this point, especially since some do not even know the difference between CGFNS Certificate and Visa Screen Certificate.

Best of luck to you.:balloons:

Aquarian · Mar 17, 2007

I really dont want a retake.. i dont care if it's for the best.. i wouldnt waive all my test results just for the heck of it. I did my best and I did not cheat.. Why do i have to suffer? Is it my fault that i passed the June06 NLE? This issue has been draining out my patience and it delays all my plans...
I'm sorry if this statement makes u feel uncomfortable in any way.........
I just want to ventilate my feelings....i am too angry.. i guess too furious with the previous Bon members.... oh gosh, i really wana cry!

Give yourself a break ( and others with you, too). I hope you get over the DIABDA soon.

nurse_plush · Mar 20, 2007

Though ANA states that june 2006 passers won't be hired to work in the US, does this really apply to ALL the hospitals & employers in the US?

ANA may have influence but I'm curious to know, if they have that right, because it seems discriminatory, and only tests 3 & 5 were proven to have the leak. It seems as though the the Phil. NLE, is more important than already passing the NCLEX exam. (just my opinion )

I also saw in the news not too long ago, someone from California came to the Philippines & said,

'that your local exam doesn't matter, just pass NCLEX then we will hire you.'

If this is true then one doesn't really have to do an all out retake.

I respect those who voluntarily waived their license to do a full retake, but there are also many who can't opt for that.

So maybe there is a glimmer of hope for those who would just retake tests 3 & 5, and not all. Saves us from the emotional, mental, and physical stressors.

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Another thing I would like to ask is, since ANA wants the June passers to take all 1-5 tests, this means that the scores for 1,2,& 4 are technically null and void. ???

which means that for those who only re-took tests 3 & 5 on december must also have to do the retake since the scores from their tests 1, 2, & 4 (from the june 2006 exam) will technically be considered null & void according to ANA's statement.

???

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cookiequery · Mar 20, 2007

Very courageous, indeed rosesun! And wise, too. Because, what if ANA dissuades the CGFNS from the partial retake stand and demand for a total retake... after the partial one? Then the batch will have to take again? Changing your license and your batch thru total retake is the only way out of the vicious cycle. In the long run, it's those who insisted against the retake (especially the President's dentist ) who created further misery.

I agree. This is exactly my thought. I'll be going in a vicious cycle if I take this june exam of 3 and 5 and then ANA demanded for a total retake. However, I decided to prepare for NCLEX first and hopefully pass it and then retake the whole local board by december. Hope I pass it again the second time around.

Aquarian · Mar 21, 2007

though ana states that june 2006 passers won't be hired to work in the us, does this really apply to all the hospitals & employers in the us?
ana may have influence but i'm curious to know, if they have that right, because it seems discriminatory, and only tests 3 & 5 were proven to have the leak. it seems as though the the phil. nle, is more important than already passing the nclex exam. (just my opinion )
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ana has the right to set its own requirements. we cannot underestimate ana's 2.9 million rn representation through its 54 constituent member associations, organizational affiliates, related entities. its credentialing arm, the ancc (american nurses credentialing center) is responsible for magnet recognition program and certifications, the aan (american academy of nursing) comprises top nursing leaders from education, management, research, and practice sectors including hospital chief executives and vice presidents among others, political appointees at the national and federal levels, the uan (united american nurses) the national nurses union. cgfns was created out of the co-sponsorship of the ana and the nln (national league for nursing) in 1977. cgfns launched ichp in 1996 to administer its visascreen program, which is a federally-approved screening program for foreign healthcare workers seeking occupational visas in the us. ana was one of the strongest proponents of the pre-screening provisions of the illegal immigration reform and immigrant responsibility act of 1996. ana lobbies the congress and regulatory agencies on healthcare issues. it has political and legislative programs (www.anapoliticalpower.org/ ) w/c has taken firm positions on issues such as the medicare reform, patients' rights, whistleblower protection for healthcare workers, etc. the list goes on...from needlestick issues to congress lobbying, and most importantly, its voice in the icn (international nursing council) as one of the 11- member credentialing forum among others. you can read about ana here: www.nursingworld.org

www.nursingworld.org/pressrel/2007/statementphilippine_nurse_exam.pdf

even pna chairman noel cadete recognizes ana's influence:

www.abs-cbnnews.com/topofthehour.aspx?storyid=69602

nurse_plush · Mar 21, 2007

@aquarian

ic, but anyway there may still be hope for us being hired despite not taking the whole exam, but instead following CGFNS recommendation on taking tests 3 & 5. :)

lawrence01 · Mar 21, 2007

ana has the right to set its own requirements. we cannot underestimate ana’s 2.9 million rn representation through its 54 constituent member associations, organizational affiliates, related entities. its credentialing arm, the ancc (american nurses credentialing center) is responsible for magnet recognition program and certifications, the aan (american academy of nursing) comprises top nursing leaders from education, management, research, and practice sectors including hospital chief executives and vice presidents among others, political appointees at the national and federal levels, the uan (united american nurses) the national nurses union. cgfns was created out of the co-sponsorship of the ana and the nln (national league for nursing) in 1977. cgfns launched ichp in 1996 to administer its visascreen program, which is a federally-approved screening program for foreign healthcare workers seeking occupational visas in the us. ana was one of the strongest proponents of the pre-screening provisions of the illegal immigration reform and immigrant responsibility act of 1996. ana lobbies the congress and regulatory agencies on healthcare issues. it has political and legislative programs (www.anapoliticalpower.org/ ) w/c has taken firm positions on issues such as the medicare reform, patients’ rights, whistleblower protection for healthcare workers, etc. the list goes on…from needlestick issues to congress lobbying, and most importantly, its voice in the icn (international nursing council) as one of the 11- member credentialing forum among others. you can read about ana here: www.nursingworld.org
www.nursingworld.org/pressrel/2007/statementphilippine_nurse_exam.pdf
even pna chairman noel cadete recognizes ana's influence:
www.abs-cbnnews.com/topofthehour.aspx?storyid=69602

frankly, i'm more surprised on pna. why are they saying to the gov't not to set aside ana's pronouncement. it is the pna, the phil. bon who are the custodians of filipino nurses on behalf of the gov't and not the gov't per se. it is them who advises the prc and now the dole on what to do to safeguard the profession.

if they are truly concern then why not advise (together w/ the phil bon) dole and prc to just take the whole exam instead of just the partial re-take and if i may add some more suggestions; that they all coordinate it w/ cgfns that their should be an option for the re-take of the whole exam w/o surrendering or canceling the philippine license just like what was agreed w/ cgfns for the re-take of test 3 and 5.

in addition, dole has left the decision on pna to come up w/ their own pronouncement on what to do since they are the local counter-part of ana and as everything is still on discussion the dole will go ahead w/ the finalization of the re-take of test 3 and 5 but are ready to include tests 1, 2, and 4 just in case. adding those 3 tests would be easy as the re-take coincides w/ the actual june examination date together w/ the 1st timers.

why couldn't the pna and the bon make a decision on what to do for the betterment of the profession and why are they passing the buck to the gov't when it is them who should decide for the gov't and the gov't via the dole will execute.

and why up to now, they (pna) don't have a pronouncement of their own. that ana press release was actually publicly released on march 5 on their website and posted here at allnurses.com just hours after and it was and it was all over the news locally by march 9.

sorry, to say this but the pna and the phil. bon don't have the guts to decide for the phil. nurses and are just leaving it up to the nurses to decide for themselves. by this time, they should now realize that it was a mistake not to let the nurses go for a re-take back then when it first got out and now the june 2006 batch are the ones suffering for their wrong decision. if the pna, the bon, and the prc have decided for a re-take way back then even before it got so huge and politicized then the june 2006 batch wouldn't be on this mess. and now, they are being indecisive once again and letting things flow on their own w/ them just from the outside and looking in.

in my opinion, the pna and the phil. bon has failed the philippine nurses miserably but there is a way to re-deem themselves and that is to decide once and for all on what is truly best for the profession.

also note that ever since the miserable failure of the appeal group that went to philadelphia, there has been no word coming out from the prc, bon and the pna w/ the exemption of the article above and they are leaving it up to the gov't ??

*note that this is just my personal view of the matter and this is not a re-take or no re-take issue as that issue has obviously been resolved already.