Nursing diagnosis "altered energy field"

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"Altered energy diagnosis"

Do you support this NANDA diagnosis? Or do you feel that this diagnosis threatens the legitamacy of our profession? Nanda still stands behind it. What are your thoughts?

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But to prematurely include unproven therapies into current nursing process helps no-one and hurts the nursing profession as a whole.

Did you look up all the TT studies before you made this comment?

I'll just list one since it's heck to type in all 40 plus in this book I looking at:

Notice it's a "real" journal.

Gordon A, Merenstein JH. D'Amico F, Hudgen D. The effects of therapeutic touch on patients with osteoarthritis of the knee. The Journal of Family Practice. 1998;47(4): 271-276.

Notice this was "way back" in 1998.

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Not really. Knees, ankles, elbows, backs.. I'd be willing to bet that any person you felt has at one time mucked up at least one of these areas. About the only 99% of anything happening here is the likelihood of having a partner with a problem (e.g. "bruises, scars, old injuries") in one of these areas.

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Pick up problems away from any joints, then, such as scars, bruises, birthmarks. Now what are the chances of someone having a bruise "just" in that spot between joints, or a scar between joints, or a headche, or a pain in a certain part of the body? Now, what? Report back to me and I'll grade you on your test, LOL!

Talk with some bodyworkers...most of then are much more in touch with the human body than nurses are. They will help you.

Have you ever "felt" that someone was staring at you and when you turned around they were? Try doing the same to someone else!

Or try to call your partner from another room using your mind. Just focus intensely telling them that you need them to come to you now. When they do, just say... "Can you get me a drink," LOL!

If you really want to sharpen your senses quickly, blindfold yourself and put in earplugs and sit in the center of a room. Now try to avoid the other people in the room who are sneaking up on you with a big stick.

Sorry to get off track, but anyone can learn to do this "wacky" stuff. All it means is that you have acute senses and are making full use of what your God gave you. If you grew up in the country versus the concrete jungle you will be way ahead of others.

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Oh my gosh! I had no idea that was why there were nursing diagnosis. I always assumed that if I went to nursing school, I would be learning about medical diagnosis and what nursing interventions were appropriate based on that. I just don't think I would fit into this field.

I'm thinking the same thing too! I'm starting an Accelerated BSN this August and I wonder if this will show up on an exam. Oh well. I'm going to push forward anyways. I'll put the "correct" answers down on the exams in school. I don't feel that my nursing education ends at graduation... in fact the real learning will just be starting. I'll reserve judgement on "nursing diagnosis until I'm a seasoned vet."

I keep picturing a pt with a GSW to the head and writing "At Risk for Lead Poisoning" on the chart. (I Wouldn't want to make a medical diagnosis and overstep by boundries.:nono: )

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Specializes in home & public health, med-surg, hospice.

Or try to call your partner from another room using your mind. Just focus intensely telling them that you need them to come to you now. When they do, just say... "Can you get me a drink," LOL!

:roll I'd wind up dyin' of dehydration b4 that worked in my house! :chuckle

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First of all, I would like to thank ALL the posters in this interesting thread! There has been humor and emotion, tit for tat posts and vigorous opinion. This is what nursing should be about...exploration of our practice, where we are and where we are going. I find it much more stimulating than Judge Judy! Anyway, on with the debate.

BTW there are HT practitioners who are reimbursed by insurance for this service.

I find this VERY hard to believe. What is the CPT code?

Ha, ha...now do the same for wind as you just did for the chair!
Wind is environmental in nature. Anyone can sense it and affect it. You can block it by moving behind a wall or initiate it by turning on a fan. It can be objectively measured and described. But it brings up a good point. Alternative therapy uses this "unicorn" theory as proof: Since wind is invisible yet exists then energy fields must also exist since they are invisible. The fallacy is in assuming that unicorns must exist because they have been described for thousands of years. There are stories and drawings. People have spent lifetimes studying them and written thesis' on their origins so they must be real. And since we can't see them, they must be magical. And since they are magical, they must have healing powers. And since they have healing powers, one can access those powers to help patients (after a weekend course of unicorn enabling to "tune" the ability).

Perhaps unicorns do exist but I still need to see scientific data showing their efficacy with disease.

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First of all, I would like to thank ALL the posters in this interesting thread! There has been humor and emotion, tit for tat posts and vigorous opinion. This is what nursing should be about...exploration of our practice, where we are and where we are going. I find it much more stimulating than Judge Judy! Anyway, on with the debate.

Yes, it's fun but I do have a 3-4 hour advanced pharm test I gotto study for!

Wind is environmental in nature. Anyone can sense it and affect it. You can block it by moving behind a wall or initiate it by turning on a fan. It can be objectively measured and described. But it brings up a good point. Alternative therapy uses this "unicorn" theory as proof: Since wind is invisible yet exists then energy fields must also exist since they are invisible. The fallacy is in assuming that unicorns must exist because they have been described for thousands of years. There are stories and drawings. People have spent lifetimes studying them and written thesis' on their origins so they must be real. And since we can't see them, they must be magical. And since they are magical, they must have healing powers. And since they have healing powers, one can access those powers to help patients (after a weekend course of unicorn enabling to "tune" the ability).

Perhaps unicorns do exist but I still need to see scientific data showing their efficacy with disease.

You're more into magical thinking than I am, LOL! Here's my point. You said that wind can be objectively measured and described. Now if you take away all the machines used to measure it, you are left with your subjective awareness of it. Now are you to believe that you actually felt it or do you insist on studies to tell you that you are actually in fact having that feeling across your face? "Wind is environmental in nature." Great, you are getting there! So is everything right down to each individual cell.

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Specializes in Nursing assistant.

Zenman, I am all for thinking outside the box, but are you saying there is no box?

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First of all, I would like to thank ALL the posters in this interesting thread! There has been humor and emotion, tit for tat posts and vigorous opinion. This is what nursing should be about...exploration of our practice, where we are and where we are going. I find it much more stimulating than Judge Judy! Anyway, on with the debate.

BTW there are HT practitioners who are reimbursed by insurance for this service.

I find this VERY hard to believe. What is the CPT code?

Wind is environmental in nature. Anyone can sense it and affect it. You can block it by moving behind a wall or initiate it by turning on a fan. It can be objectively measured and described. But it brings up a good point. Alternative therapy uses this "unicorn" theory as proof: Since wind is invisible yet exists then energy fields must also exist since they are invisible. The fallacy is in assuming that unicorns must exist because they have been described for thousands of years. There are stories and drawings. People have spent lifetimes studying them and written thesis' on their origins so they must be real. And since we can't see them, they must be magical. And since they are magical, they must have healing powers. And since they have healing powers, one can access those powers to help patients (after a weekend course of unicorn enabling to "tune" the ability).

Perhaps unicorns do exist but I still need to see scientific data showing their efficacy with disease.

Isn't the care and feeding of unicorns one of the studies undertaken by students at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry?

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Isn't the care and feeding of unicorns one of the studies undertaken by students at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry?

Now your talking about a suggest I could really sink my teeth into and believe in... Hey maybe we could get J.K. Rowling to write some NANDA Dx's!

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Zenman, I am all for thinking outside the box, but are you saying there is no box?

Well, according to quantum physics (of which I wish I knew more about), it is impossible to separate the observer from what is being observed. Why, do you see a box?

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Well, according to quantum physics (of which I wish I knew more about), it is impossible to separate the observer from what is being observed. Why, do you see a box?

So, if a tree falls in a forest and nobody sees or hears it fall, are you saying that according to quantum physics there is no tree? Or are you saying that the observer is part of the tree?

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Now your talking about a suggest I could really sink my teeth into and believe in... Hey maybe we could get J.K. Rowling to write some NANDA Dx's!

Maybe Ms. Rowling could devise a contest between Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw residents to determine who is best at diagnosing arcane conditions?

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