Controversial Michael Moore Flick 'Sicko' Will Compare U.S. Health Care with Cuba's

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Health care advances in Cuba

According to the Associated Press as cited in the Post article, "Cuba has made recent advancements in biotechnology and exports its treatments to 40 countries around the world, raking in an estimated $100 million a year. ... In 2004, the U.S. government granted an exception to its economic embargo against Cuba and allowed a California drug company to test three cancer vaccines developed in Havana."

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Rush would love any form of healthcare as long as it involved Vicodin

You forgot oxycontin . . . .

steph

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Interesting thought from Dan OBrien in Buffalo for the Broken Heart 2001 about Adam Smith.

"What is economically good for the individual is not necessarily good for society at large."

Frankly, I think the best source of news is National Public Radio.

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I love NPR & PBS as well. DH & I donate to both.

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I love NPR & PBS as well. DH & I donate to both.

I listen to NPR also . . . but it is decidedly from the liberal perspective. Which is ok - freedom of speech and all.

I do HATE the fund raisers on PBS though - seems like most of the folks are over-the-top when they gush about the music group they are showcasing . . . .

steph (former liberal);)

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It is off topic but I am most glad for PBS because they play music. I love opera, classical, Chinese and Hindustani classical, Do-Wop, folk, OLD country, show tunes, jazz, and other no longer mainstream music they play.

Some of the highlights recently have been Ken Burns jazz narrated by Winton Marsalis, Tony Bennet and K.D.Lang, the Carter family, Amazing Grace, and Andre Rieu's Concert just last week.

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It is off topic but I am most glad for PBS because they play music. I love opera, classical, Chinese and Hindustani classical, Do-Wop, folk, OLD country, show tunes, jazz, and other no longer mainstream music they play.

Some of the highlights recently have been Ken Burns jazz narrated by Winton Marsalis, Tony Bennet and K.D.Lang, the Carter family, Amazing Grace, and Andre Rieu's Concert just last week.

Off topic but me too.

steph

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Interesting thought from Dan OBrien in Buffalo for the Broken Heart 2001 about Adam Smith.

"What is economically good for the individual is not necessarily good for society at large."

Frankly, I think the best source of news is National Public Radio.

Maybe, but what is good for society at large is largely good for the individual, as well.

And THAT has been proven, time and time again, to be free capital markets and constrained governments.

~faith,

Timothy.

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What he was referring to was the idea of agriculture policy supporting sustainability of production in concordance with the land.

Many of the same issues that confront agriculture confront us in the helping professions.

I just visited Mount Rushmore on Sun. I read the display about Jefferson and his selection as one of the "faces." One of the ideas espoused about Jefferson was "government derived from the people." Without a doubt government needs constraint. But my reading of Jefferson also discusses the oversight of government by the people through elections. One of the problems with leaving unconstrained private sector interests in control of the health care system is the very lack of oversight which the electoral process demands of government.

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http://www.pnhp.org/ very clearly argues for a federally funded but state controlled/managed care system. The goals of this type of system are to put regulation of the health care system in the hands of people who can be held accountable through the electoral process.

PNHP specific proposal available at http://www.pnhp.org/physiciansproposal/proposal/Physicians%20ProposalJAMA.pdf. FAQ available at http://www.pnhp.org/facts/singlepayer_faq.php.

Who will run the health care system?

There is a myth that, with national health insurance, the government will be making the medical decisions. But in a publicly-financed, universal health care system medical decisions are left to the patient and doctor, as they should be. This is true even in the countries like the UK and Spain that have socialized medicine.

In a public system the public has a say in how it's run. Cost containment measures are publicly managed at the state level by an elected and appointed body that represents the people of that state. This body decides on the benefit package, negotiates doctor fees and hospital budgets. It also is responsible for health planning and the distribution of expensive technology.

The benefit package people will receive will not be decided upon by the legislature, but by the appointed body that represents all state residents in consultation with medical experts in all fields of medicine.

We need to build a sustainable health care system for all Americans.

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Maybe, but what is good for society at large is largely good for the individual, as well.

And THAT has been proven, time and time again, to be free capital markets and constrained governments.

~faith,

Timothy.

Could you elaborate?

Where? When?

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I will be going to Canada for a family reunion in a couple of days and I plan to interview all my Canadian reletives about what they think of their national healthcare. When I get back on Tuesday I will honestly let you all know what they said, I plan to write down their comments so as not to forget anything.There is a possibility that a couple of German reletives may attend, I hope so, then I can get their opinion on the German national healthcare also.

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Maybe, but what is good for society at large is largely good for the individual, as well.

And THAT has been proven, time and time again, to be free capital markets and constrained governments.

~faith,

Timothy.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you cant fool all of the people all of the time.

Im not a fool

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i wrote a long BRILLANT post and it disappeared into cyperspace

here i go again

i don't see many more nurses and patients trying to get into the usa than viceversa

many nurses believe that when national health care come in they will no longer have to pay medical insurance, medical part of car insurance,

that their pay will go up and the ration of nurses to patients will go down

that anytime they want to see the doctor and have a procedure done all they have to do is ask and they will be welcomed with open arms

doctors do not have to participate in the program, the doctors that do can only handle a certain amount the excess from the one who decline

if you really believe that mm is smart enough to plan and implement the health care system that has been debated for years then maybe you ae a little naive

me: i am surprised he got potty trained

Speaking of hyperbole...

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