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Nurses with a masters don't do beside nursing ?

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Specializes in LTC. Has 6 years experience.

last night i heard a nurse say something that i thought was kind of disturbing.:banghead: she was talking about another nurse whom just received her masters, and how she can't believe she is still going to do bedside nursing.

she then said(loud enough for patients to hear) " if i get my masters, you'll never see me in beside nursing" i'll have a much better job, and won't have to deal c- patients".

when she said that, i cringed. i know nurses with masters have a higher eduacation, but does it mean that they will never work as a beside nurse again? are they above bedside nursing?

i may pursue my masters, because i would love to teach... however i don't see myself thinking i'm too good for beside nursing just because of a masters degree.

anyway tell me what you think...

traumaRUs, MSN, APRN, CNS

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU. Has 27 years experience.

I have a masters degree and while I don't do staff bedside nursing, I certainly see consults in the ER and ICU and if they need to be repositioned, gotten a blanket or if I can asssist with pulling a pt up in bed, I do so. However, my role is not that of a bedside nurse. It doesn't mean I didn't like it because I did - its just if I do a lot of bedside tasks, I can't get my own work done.

Also - I'm 50 now and plan to work another 15-20 years and to be honest, I doubt I could keep up the pace at that age that I can do now. A masters degree gives you more options. It doesn't mean you don't like bedside care, just that as we age, we need other options.

LibraSunCNM, MSN

Specializes in OB. Has 10 years experience.

I had several clinical instructors in nursing school who had their masters' in nursing education and still worked at the bedside. However, if you get a master's to become an NP, CRNA, or CNM, you're obviously looking to move away from direct bedside nursing.

Caffeine_IV

Specializes in LTC, med/surg, hospice. Has 7 years experience.

I've worked with a master's prepared nurse as a floor nurse. But usually if someone has gone that far in their career, it's specifically to get away from bedside nursing. Not that they are above it, but they don't want to do it any longer and that is ok. Bedside is not for everyone.

Also the pay for your master's being a floor nurse is not that much more than BSN. So it may not be lucrative for them as management or other nursing careers..I really don't know.

I have a master's and a doctorate degree in nursing. I worked for the past five years doing prn at the bedside in my spare time. Some months I have spare time to work, others I don't. But I don't feel like I'd never work the bedside because of an advanced degree. I'm an educator, and train future nurses, so I need to know what is happening at the bedside. It has been an eye opener for me.

MAISY, RN-ER, BSN, RN

Specializes in ER/EHR Trainer. Has 6 years experience.

Everyone has their gifts and should use them as they see fit. I am not sure the letters behind your name take you away from bedside nursing, they just give you other avenues to practice different types of nursing.

I love/hate the ER, I would love to do the job I believe should be done; but staff/patient ratios do not allow me to practice the way I feel would be both safe and satisfying to the patient. I am working on my Masters, and I don't know where I will end up. Perhaps I will lobby for safe working conditions, perhaps I will move into the business ranks and fight for better working conditions, go into education, branch off into my own business....who knows?

Bedside nursing is not the only kind, and I think it's good that people have a wider vision of what nursing, could/should be!

subee, MSN, CRNA

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired. Has 48 years experience.

My master's program REQUIRED that the educators work at the bedside, clinic or in a non-teaching position for a day a week. Keeps them useful and in touch. Also, bedside nursing pays better often.

After receiving my MSN, I remained at the bedside. One, I enjoy it, and two, as a staff nurse, I still had the time to either teach and/or continue my own education. Now I am only per diem because I am in school full-time--there is only so much of me to go around.

That was wrong of that nurse to yell that out within earshot of patients. Shame on her.

luvschoolnursing, LPN

Specializes in School Nursing. Has 23 years experience.

I think often nurses that want to work bedside don't feel motivated to invest in the huge expense of a master's degree when there will be little financial return. I know i did not get my BSN while I worked bedside and that was part of the reason. I needed it for the position I am in now. While I don't need a master's for this position, I would like to pursue it for my own satisfaction, but I don't see that happening soon because I have 2 teenagers who will soon need college educations. Maybe in 10 years.

FireStarterRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele. Has 15 years experience.

I find it very unprofessional when a healthcare worker says things like this in front of patients! Big pet peeve of mine! :madface:

luvschoolnursing, LPN

Specializes in School Nursing. Has 23 years experience.

I agree, Firestarter. Regardless of the reasoning it is unprofessional.

Whispera, MSN, RN

Specializes in psych, addictions, hospice, education.

As a master's prepared nurse I have had direct patient contact as a consultant to other nurses and to doctors--I evaluate patients and assist with prescribing treatment. I do whatever is needed when I'm there too. I'm not above anything. I've also had my own practice where I saw my own patients.

I think the MSN nurses who say they'll never do bedside nursing again are kind of unknowing of what reality is. Maybe they don't do BEDside nursing but most of them will care for patients directly and indirectly. It all depends on the day.

Anybody who makes that kind of comment within earshot of patients is below par and probably has no business pursuing higher education as a nurse. I once had a DON who had a PhD in nursing and she did not consider herself above getting involved with patient care if necessary. That nurse is indeed entitled to her opinion but she has no business loudly expressing it for patients to hear. That could be considered placing the patients in emotional jeopardy. She would fail the CPNE of Excelsior College if she pulled a stunt like that during testing. If it is wrong for a potential new grad, it is wrong for a seasoned nurse. Shame on her.

NurseLoveJoy88, ASN, RN

Specializes in LTC. Has 6 years experience.

Thanks every one for enlightening me on this topic. Its nice to hear that nurses with masters still keep an open mind about what nursing entails: thats caring, compassion, and humility.

last night i heard a nurse say something that i thought was kind of disturbing.:banghead: she was talking about another nurse whom just received her masters, and how she can't believe she is still going to do bedside nursing.

she then said(loud enough for patients to hear) " if i get my masters, you'll never see me in beside nursing" i'll have a much better job, and won't have to deal c- patients".

when she said that, i cringed. i know nurses with masters have a higher eduacation, but does it mean that they will never work as a beside nurse again? are they above bedside nursing?

i may pursue my masters, because i would love to teach... however i don't see myself thinking i'm too good for beside nursing just because of a masters degree.

anyway tell me what you think...

i don't see where the comment was disturbing. if nursing is like other fields then people who get master's degrees are looking for growth options which may take them away from "line work", "floor work", "production work", "bedside" or whatever it is called in the given field. one kind of work is not better than the other objectively speaking but a person may have a subjective preference for one over the other. so some people with master's degrees might keep doing the "floor work" and others may consider themselves as having moved on to a different kind of work. it's no big deal either way.

I find it very unprofessional when a healthcare worker says things like this in front of patients! Big pet peeve of mine! :madface:

Some people only have taste in their mouths! :nono:

eriksoln, BSN, RN

Specializes in M/S, Travel Nursing, Pulmonary. Has 15 years experience.

When I was a CNA, I worked under a bedside nurse who had a master's. She was an excellent nurse. I had no issues with her anyway.

Truth is, lack of clinical experience will bite you in the end. I know a few theory/clinical instructors who were passed by for promotions because they lacked clinical experience.

I have seen people who simply float through school, get one degree after another and think they are "nurses". They have a master's degree and count their rotations as clinical experience. Those are the people looking for jobs right now. I've seen a few "nurses by degree only" types who realize the administration jobs are filled try to go into clinical nursing until somthing more to their taste opens up. They dont last, cant handle the non-ideal, outside the book aspect of nursing.

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