Published Mar 27, 2007
dedicatedstudent
6 Posts
i'm precepting right now and i have a question. What is the average nurse patient ratio where you are? do you feel that it is too high? What is being done to lower it? i have had up to 5 patients and i feel that i am not able to do all that i would like to for each patient. the load feels very overwhelming. any prioritization suggestions and help with organizing my day.
Tweety, BSN, RN
35,413 Posts
Our ratio is 5 to 7. Short of going on strike we've talked and had meetings until we're blue in the face and it hasn't changed yet.
You should talk to your preceptor. You should have a positive learning experience and shouldn't have to come to the internet looking for prioritization and help with organizing your day. That's the preceptors job. I'm a preceptor and I would feel like a failure if my student was overwhelmed, disorganized and didn't feel like they were prioritizing.
It's good your getting a taste of the real world, but I feel the preceptor isn't doing their job.
Good luck.
TazziRN, RN
6,487 Posts
Ours is 2-5 per nurse depending on the unit. Really critical pts are 1:1.
MIA-RN1, RN
1,329 Posts
ours is 5 mother/baby couplets to one nurse. Included in the five can also be antepartum or post partum mag pts and their babies.
nursemary9, BSN, RN
657 Posts
Hi
I have to agree with Tweety here. I am also a preceptor--and have been for years. That's part of the preceptors job, to show you or help you to learn prioritization.
Our ratios are different on various shifts. I'm a night worker, so we tend to have more pt's then the day or PM shifts.
We have anywhere from 4-7 per RN. Altho, I have had as many as 9 at times (rare). But for me, that's not so horrifying, cause as you can see I have been a nurse for MANY long years & in the old days, we would sometimes get the WHOLE floor----25 pt's.
But that was a different time with different accuities.
Our day shift RN's get from 4-6 pt's--most of the time 5.
Now then, tho they do have LOTS of discharges and then admits. So it can get awfully hectic.
You didn't say what type of floor you're on--I work on a Med/Surg--Hem/Onc unit. I am Oncology Certified. We get a LOT of Chemo & Blood Transfusions plus we also get all the pt's who might need peritoneal dialysis.
Our surgical/trauma floor, they get 4-5 pt's.; our Icu's get 1-2 pt's.
Again, I really think you need to talk with your preceptor.
Also, do you get to evaluate the person precepting?
We have a new Nurse Residency Program & with this your orientation is 3 months with a preceptor.
At the end, there is a lengthly evaluation of both preceptor & preceptee.
Hope this helps a bit;
Good Luck; A career in Nursing can be very satisfying and rewarding.
Mary Ann
twinmommy+2, ADN, BSN, MSN
1,289 Posts
We have anyware from 4-7 pts usually, sometimes more if someone called in and we have to cover that team of patients.
i am on a med-surg unit. precepting was ony 5 weeks. i am the type of person that likes to be told what to do until i grasp what's really going on. i still feel like some days are under control and others days were hectic.
mom2michael, MSN, RN, NP
1,168 Posts
When I worked Tele on day shift we had 4-5 and on nights we had 8-9.
Now I work in an 8 bed ER.......
debthern
156 Posts
I work in a PACU and we are 2 to 1 unless they are an icu patient and they are 1:1
Lorie P.
755 Posts
Gromit
821 Posts
My floor is generally 3-1, though if we have the staff, and the acuity is really nasty, its 2-1. Most of the facility ranges between 5 or 6-1, I think (not sure) short-term stay is also 6-1, and if anyone would have higher levels, it would be them. Their patients are all 'walkie-talkies' (with rare exceptions), their vitals are q-shift (8hr), no telemetry etc., meds are given q8hr on that floor -in other words, the patients are pretty much self-sufficient.
I've never been a preceptor, but I do concur with those posters who are. You should discuss this with your preceptor.
I can't speak for others, but I never really felt 'ready' until I did my 'internship' (for new nurses) -certainly never felt 'ready' while in school. If this is your case, then talk to the preceptor and give it time.
TigerGalLE, BSN, RN
713 Posts
I have 5-7... sometimes we pick up an 8th if a nurse leaves at 3:00. I really feel like 6-8 is too many patients on my floor. I work on a renal/respiratory medsurg floor. This time of year we get a lot of sick respiratory patients and it can get crazy somedays. I am getting better at prioritizing. But it really makes me sad that I don't ever have time to sit with a patient so they can tell me how they are REALLY feeling. When I have a very sick patient I feel I am neglecting my other patients. I think we should have no more than 5 patients.. But what do I know? I'm at the bottom of the totem pole where I work!
PS. Maybe if someone wouldn't call in every single day I work then this wouldn't be such a problem!