Nurse Clueless

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Has anyone ever worked with a nurse who seemed as if they never went to nursing school? There's this nurse whose abilities I always question (and he's been working at this LTC facility for a little more than 3 years now). He has common sense and tests really well, but severely lacks basic clinical knowledge. This year alone:

1) He was pre-filling regular insulin and administering it regardless of the FS reading (Ex: giving 4 units to a patient who really needed "2" or "8"). I explained to him how insulin works and why his practice was dangerous and he DID change it. However, he was really, really surprised that the difference between "2" and "8" units could be dangerous because they were "small increments".

2) He needed my assistance with a clinical problem. He asked if orthostatic hypotension - yes, HYPOtension - was a rise or drop in B/P.

3) He was giving IM vaccinations (hep A/B) using insulin syringes. He knew his landmark sites for IM and SQ, but didn't understand that the length of the hypodermic needle mattered.

Has anyone ever worked with similar nurses?

Specializes in Prior military RN/current ICU RN..

How do you know he "tests really well"? Did you ask him something like that? Do you have evidence of that? When you say he has "common sense" what do you mean? You are basically saying he is intelligent and common sense would imply if he does not understand something he would ask for assistance. The entire post is a contradiction.

Specializes in LTC.

I worked with a RN in LTC who came to me to ask if she should report a firm, fixed "lump" on a female resident breast to the MD. She then continued to report that the resident had been on abx for a "knot on her neck." I said um YEAH you report that, could be cancer. The nurse said she didn't know if she should report because the resident "is a DNR."........Made me shudder to think of what this nurse hadn't reported before based on code status alone. Turns out it WAS cancer, but they family chose palliative care. But still...

You are basically saying he is intelligent and common sense would imply if he does not understand something he would ask for assistance. The entire post is a contradiction.

Not really. My take on it is that someone who is fraudulently misrepresenting himself as a nurse would not want to draw attention to what he does not know, and would NOT ask for assistance. He might believe himself smart enough to figure it all out himself, without alerting anyone unnecessarily that he is a fraud.

Just my thought on that, anyway.

Specializes in hospice.
I said um YEAH you report that, could be cancer. The nurse said she didn't know if she should report because the resident "is a DNR."........Made me shudder to think of what this nurse hadn't reported before based on code status alone. Turns out it WAS cancer, but they family chose palliative care. But still...

Dear Jesus......it is shocking and scandalous how many NURSES seem to think that DNR means do not treat. How do we ever expect to banish misconceptions among the general public when the supposedly educated are too dumb to get it?! :banghead:

Specializes in critical care.
Dear Jesus......it is shocking and scandalous how many NURSES seem to think that DNR means do not treat. How do we ever expect to banish misconceptions among the general public when the supposedly educated are too dumb to get it?! :banghead:

I can't remember which thread it was but a little while ago a commenter asked why medical treatment was being offered to a DNR patient. Almost quoted and responded but thought better of it. Maybe I missed something in the context, but yeah. Half the patients we get on my step down unit are DNR. DNR doesn't mean they are palliative care only. It means they don't want the horrors of being coded - that's it.

I've met such a person, lacking in all kinds of sense, both common and education-based. Fired from every extended care case, yet always working. Why? Because the agency prefers to keep someone like this working, instead of any number of other nurses who do good or even just acceptable work.

Specializes in hospice.
When I was an aide in the hospital, I worked once with an a RN who obtained a sample for a fecal occult blood test (the kind where you wipe the stool on the boxes inside of the card... see pic), and she wiped the stool on the front of the sample card and put it in the bag like that to be sent to lab.

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Hand to God, she never even opened the card, just smeared a glob of poop on the front of it, labeled the bag and handed the bag to me to deliver it to the lab. Of course, the inside of the bag became all smeared, too. I politely explained to her that the lab techs would murder me if I brought this to them.

I was laughing like a maniac reading this last night, and my family asked me what the heck was going on. Just the visual of her doing that was too much!

Specializes in Mental Health Nursing.
newboy, I'm going to go in a different direction with this: are you certain this person is REALLY a licensed nurse? I'm asking because it's not unheard-of for someone to obtain a nursing job, do some serious damage, and then be discovered as a fraud later.

Someone posted here only a few months' back about an agency nurse who just could not have been a nurse (stories not unlike what's posted here). The agency wasn't known to be terribly detailed in its vetting/hiring practices, so......an imposter with a good tongue game can (and did, and does) get past agency administration.

Look up this person's license online, verify that they HAVE one. Not kidding.

Yea, he's an actual nurse. Believe me, I checked on the BON site.

Yea, he's an actual nurse. Believe me, I checked on the BON site.

Huh. Ok, any chance that he isn't the guy who DOES have the license? I realize I sound a bit paranoid, but there really have been enough cases of stolen (borrowed?!) identities to make me question it all the more. As in Joe Smith absolutely does have a license to practice nursing....but the guy you are working with is not, in fact, Joe Smith.

If he really is a licensed nurse....well, here's hoping that someone figures out the problem before he kills a patient. Or a ticked-off co-worker kills HIM!

LOL- does everyone feel better now?

Specializes in School Nursing, Hospice,Med-Surg.

I was hospitalized last week for 4 days because of low potassium levels. While I was getting IV and PO potassium, lab was drawing frequent levels to see if it was going up.

My nurses were great about updating me on my numbers but one morning my husband asked if my lab results had come back and she says, "yes, your potassium is 206." As in "two hundred and six."

Whoa, talk about a jump! Better stop the IV stat!

Huh. Ok, any chance that he isn't the guy who DOES have the license? I realize I sound a bit paranoid, but there really have been enough cases of stolen (borrowed?!) identities to make me question it all the more. As in Joe Smith absolutely does have a license to practice nursing....but the guy you are working with is not, in fact, Joe Smith.

If he really is a licensed nurse....well, here's hoping that someone figures out the problem before he kills a patient. Or a ticked-off co-worker kills HIM!

Maybe he's that guy on the Men in Nursing forum who wants to lie about being a BSN.

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