Nosebleed, WWYD?

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I had a student (14 years old) just leave my office. He got on the bus with a nosebleed and was waiting in my office when I arrived with administration saying he was feeling lightheaded. VS all stable (130/78, HR 85, resp 12, O2 98%) but says he feels dizzy and tired. I had him lie down for 20 minutes and he drank 1/2 the water I gave him.

I strongly feel that he is exaggerating his symptoms. I called home (with him in earshot) to let parents know and cover my bases. So he heard me let them know that all VS are good to go, ect, ect.

How would you handle this situation? And if he returned in an hour?

I know a trick that will cure ANY ailment. Tell them their parents are on on their way to pick them up!! Biggest medical discovery EVER!! Then when they ask to go get their backpack, tell them " oh my bad, I meant time to go back to class."

GENIUS!!!!!!! I am seriously trying this. :yes:

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I considered this, but he was quite dramatic about his nodding off and then jerking back to alertness. Over and over and over. He also comes in with obscure complaints on a semi regular basis.

In any case, he has not returned. Score.

I believe he just hates school.
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You should stock a catheter and an IV for scare tactic purposes. "Well you know one of things we do for lightheadedness is to put this catheter in and it goes up you know what" or "looks like your gonna need an IV and I haven't practiced in forever, its a really big needle!". I bet any money that kid would be up and heading back in no time!

You should stock a catheter and an IV for scare tactic purposes. "Well you know one of things we do for lightheadedness is to put this catheter in and it goes up you know what" or "looks like your gonna need an IV and I haven't practiced in forever, its a really big needle!". I bet any money that kid would be up and heading back in no time!

:roflmao:

We would be sued for mental trauma after that one!

You should stock a catheter and an IV for scare tactic purposes. "Well you know one of things we do for lightheadedness is to put this catheter in and it goes up you know what" or "looks like your gonna need an IV and I haven't practiced in forever, its a really big needle!". I bet any money that kid would be up and heading back in no time!

I'm gonna say it's way too easy for a kid to call your bluff on this.

Specializes in IMC, school nursing.
I'm gonna say it's way too easy for a kid to call your bluff on this.

I have quite a few that would say that.

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I've never used one of these.

With this student, the bleeding had stopped by the time I saw him. He was complaining of dizziness/fatigue after the fact.

How would he know that lightheaded is a symptom? I don't think he was faking it.

Sometimes bp can be very low but when it's taken it can rise.

Also he may be anemic from the nosebleeds.

Some get dizzy at the sight of blood.

I woukd contact his pcp and recommend iron panel as well as CBC if he has had nosebleeds before

You should stock a catheter and an IV for scare tactic purposes. "Well you know one of things we do for lightheadedness is to put this catheter in and it goes up you know what" or "looks like your gonna need an IV and I haven't practiced in forever, its a really big needle!". I bet any money that kid would be up and heading back in no time!

Wow! Imho that is terrible nursing practice!

why would you scare a kid to find out if he is faking? This sound like borderline threat/abusive to me.

Ehen I was young I was accused of faking and when I was 20 I was dx and all the tummy aches, headaches, dizziness and rashes were explained. I was losing a lot of blood but no one bothered taking me seriously.

if he is faking, he isn't doing it for no reason. Maybe he has something going on at home? Not getting enough attention, sick family member who gets attention etc. scaring him is really not the way to go.

How would he know that lightheaded is a symptom? I don't think he was faking it.

Sometimes bp can be very low but when it's taken it can rise.

Also he may be anemic from the nosebleeds.

Some get dizzy at the sight of blood.

I woukd contact his pcp and recommend iron panel as well as CBC if he has had nosebleeds before

Nope, that's not what we do as a SN. We call the mom and see if she feels he needs to be taken to the doc for frequent, copious nosebleeds.

Unless he's hemorrhaging, his iron and CBC will likely not be a factor from an isolated nosebleed. Unless he has ITP and got punched in the face.

If he was truly faint, it was more likely other factors, like skipping breakfast, or the sight of the blood itself.

Wow! Imho that is terrible nursing practice!

why would you scare a kid to find out if he is faking? This sound like borderline threat/abusive to me.

Ehen I was young I was accused of faking and when I was 20 I was dx and all the tummy aches, headaches, dizziness and rashes were explained. I was losing a lot of blood but no one bothered taking me seriously.

if he is faking, he isn't doing it for no reason. Maybe he has something going on at home? Not getting enough attention, sick family member who gets attention etc. scaring him is really not the way to go.

I think twozer was kidding.

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