Non-Patient Contact Jobs

[martymoose, BSN, RN]

Is anyone noticing that it seems very difficult to find non patient care jobs? Almost every nurse I work with is trying to “get out” and we hear that request everyday from other nurses in the company too.

Anyone else having this problem ? Was hoping not to waste the degree, but may have to to get out of patient care. Have applied, but then never hear anything back 

Any hope ? Is it maybe regional?

[Hoosier_RN, MSN]

6 hours ago, martymoose said:

Is anyone noticing that it seems very difficult to find non patient care jobs? Almost every nurse I work with is trying to “get out” and we hear that request everyday from other nurses in the company too.

anyone else having this problem ? Was hoping not to waste the degree, but may have to to get out of patient care. Have applied, but then never hear anything back 

Any hope ? Is it maybe regional ?

It's pretty much everywhere. Crappy ratios and management. Patients that suck the life out of you. Everyone wants minimal contact or work from home jobs. Upper management/admin needs to wake up and smell the saline...

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

Data abstraction, clinical documentation improvement, quality management, utilization management, denials and appeals - lots of non-patient-contact opportunities in those areas, at hospitals and remotely. 

[martymoose, BSN, RN]

8 hours ago, Pixie.RN said:

Data abstraction, clinical documentation improvement, quality management, utilization management, denials and appeals - lots of non-patient-contact opportunities in those areas, at hospitals and remotely. 

I realize those jobs exist , it seems that theres more applicants than jobs ? Ill keep trying but we only have two listings where im at right now...

[T-Bird78]

I’m wanting out also, but my problem is I’m an LPN and all those are RN jobs. I’m really stuck and am seriously contemplating going to school for medical coding. At my offices, the only people who have been there longer than I have all work from home—and I haven’t even been there 6 years. Every other in-office person is 5 years or less, and I’m the only clinical person who’s been with us over a year. 

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

39 minutes ago, T-Bird78 said:

I’m wanting out also, but my problem is I’m an LPN and all those are RN jobs. I’m really stuck and am seriously contemplating going to school for medical coding. At my offices, the only people who have been there longer than I have all work from home—and I haven’t even been there 6 years. Every other in-office person is 5 years or less, and I’m the only clinical person who’s been with us over a year. 

They are not all RN jobs - there are companies who hire LPNs for UM. Check out the larger insurance companies, or look on Indeed. The facebook group Remote Nursing Jobs has great info as well. 

10 hours ago, martymoose said:

I realize those jobs exist , it seems that theres more applicants than jobs ? Ill keep trying but we only have two listings where im at right now...

There are lots of applicants, more so now due to COVID. But they exist! 

[Hannahbanana, BSN, MSN]

If you have more than a few years of experience and especially if you have any kind of certifications, seriously think about your demonstrated value as a legal nurse consultant. Yes, really, you, I mean it. There are many ways to use your nursing expertise and knowledge of hospitals, medicine, systems, med records, and standards of practice helping out in the legal field. You don’t need to know the law, that’s not what they hire us for. They need to know what we know. Check it out at www.aalnc.org .

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

3 hours ago, Hannahbanana said:

If you have more than a few years of experience and especially if you have any kind of certifications, seriously think about your demonstrated value as a legal nurse consultant. Yes, really, you, I mean it. There are many ways to use your nursing expertise and knowledge of hospitals, medicine, systems, med records, and standards of practice helping out in the legal field. You don’t need to know the law, that’s not what they hire us for. They need to know what we know. Check it out at www.aalnc.org .

Great advice! I took an LNC course through UGA and the Center for Legal Studies when I was deployed in Afghanistan - our team commander/surgeon wanted all of us to pick something for the wintertime when the "fighting season" is slower, so that is what I chose. (Too bad the Taliban didn't get the memo about winding down, but I digress!) I found it very interesting, legal nurse consulting appeals to me. I applied for a couple of per diem legal nurse positions, but no bites. I do have a lot of experience doing medical record review and compiling clinical summaries, but I guess that wasn't enough, even with the CEN/CPEN/TCRN! Oh well. I always keep my eyes peeled. ?

[Hoosier_RN, MSN]

4 hours ago, Hannahbanana said:

If you have more than a few years of experience and especially if you have any kind of certifications, seriously think about your demonstrated value as a legal nurse consultant. Yes, really, you, I mean it. There are many ways to use your nursing expertise and knowledge of hospitals, medicine, systems, med records, and standards of practice helping out in the legal field. You don’t need to know the law, that’s not what they hire us for. They need to know what we know. Check it out at www.aalnc.org .

Depends on where you are. 3 friends of mine got their certs. Not one has ever gotten a call to use their knowledge

[Hannahbanana, BSN, MSN]

Well, attorney offices don't spend a lot of time combing the cert reports just in case. You can't just sit there and wait for a call. YOU have to tell them who and what you are.

A literate cover letter and a spiffy CV attached will help. Also network-- have business cards (not brochures) made and pass them out everywhere; put it in your siggy line, on your stationery. Most business comes from word of mouth-- most of my clients come from somebody who said, "I think I know someone who..." AALNC can help you with marketing ideas and ways to buff your CV. Be bold. Give it a shot.

[Hoosier_RN, MSN]

6 hours ago, Hannahbanana said:

Well, attorney offices don't spend a lot of time combing the cert reports just in case. You can't just sit there and wait for a call. YOU have to tell them who and what you are.

A literate cover letter and a spiffy CV attached will help. Also network-- have business cards (not brochures) made and pass them out everywhere; put it in your siggy line, on your stationery. Most business comes from word of mouth-- most of my clients come from somebody who said, "I think I know someone who..." AALNC can help you with marketing ideas and ways to buff your CV. Be bold. Give it a shot.

My friends have done the above, have sent their info all over our state, and other states where they're licensed. They've expressed disappointment at lack of opportunity. I think some areas may be more in need than others, much like other specialties. Hopefully, eventually, something will come around for them

[Hannahbanana, BSN, MSN]

Sometime it just takes one good case, and then word of mouth kicks in. Try hooking on to a new firm c younger attorneys. They become older and more experienced and you can help them.