No call/ No show

NicuGal, MSN, RN · Jun 8, 2013

No call no show means just that. You had a late call in if it wasn't in the window your policy set. We goon a point system and a no call no show pretty much gets you close to being fired, given you have no sick points accumulated.

Morainey, BSN, RN · Jun 8, 2013

Very upset, I have never called in before and thought I understood the process just from hearing about it at work. Well, I woke up at 2am vomiting and thought I could take a zofran for it and tough it out. By 4am the vomiting had just gotten worse, so I called in. The charge nurse and bed manager both told me that it is considered a No show/ No call because it wasn't 4 hours before my shift. I am mad at myself because I never bothered to learn the policy. I feel worse because in between vomiting I am googling if anybody has ever been fired for a first No Show/ No Call. I even had to find out exactly what it is.
What do I do? Has anybody ever been fired?

That's ridiculous. No call no show, to me, means you just plain don't show up or call. Calling in is completely different... especially if you are sick. When I worked nights the assignment was considered final at 5:30AM because by then we figured everyone who was going to call out would have done so already.

**canoehead, BSN, RN** · Jun 8, 2013

A call out is a call out, they may LIKE you to call earlier, and counsel you to do so, but it ain't a no call/no show. That feels like a power trip to me. And if you think about it, for a day shift, they aren't going to wake people at 3am to see if they will come in, maybe at 5am, and you had already called at that point. Operationally, the time of the call did NOT have a negative effect.

morte, LPN, LVN · Jun 9, 2013

OP, I wouldn't talk directly to the persons who told you this. I would access the P+P to find out the actual policy, may or may not be what was stated. Can you access this on the 'net? if not, check with HR. good luck.

BrandonLPN, LPN · Jun 9, 2013

Sounds like they don't have a firm grasp of the English language.

I'm wondering if the person you talked to on the phone was just lying about the policy in order to intimidate you into coming in.

miasmom · Jun 9, 2013

I know of a nurse tried to call in 3 hours ahead was not feeling well. Nausea. They gave here a hard time on the ohineTurns out she was in early heart problems. Ccu for 3 weeks. We have to treat our patients with compassion not each other# shaking myhead

MatrixRn · Jun 9, 2013

A no call, no show is just that someone who does not show up for their shift. However, in hospital staffing- unless the census drops - anyone who calls out must be replaced so the nurse who already did her 8 or 12 hour shift can report off and go home. So the earlier you can call and let them know the better.

That said, I doubt you will be penalized for a no call, no show. It sounds like the nurse who took the call out was being inappropriate. When you speak to your nurse manager make sure she knows that you were intimidated by this nurse telling you that it was a no call, no show. That is unprofessional, passive-aggressive behavior.

MaleRn77 · Jun 9, 2013

you need to find a new job. that policy is redunkulous

Sugarcoma, RN · Jun 9, 2013

I agree that this policy is beyond ridiculous. Every job I have held the policy has been 2 hours, however exceptions can and are made routinely. We have had nurses get into accidents on the way in, or find out their car won't start, etc. Life happens. While ideally we should be able to give plenty of advance notice so that other arrangements can be made, it cannot always be helped. Managers do have some leeway in applying the policy and both of the ones I have worked for would have never written that up as a no call/no show.

I would suggest you speak to your manager directly, explain the circumstances, and ask what the policy for no call/no show is. I have seen people fired for no call/no show but they were habitual offenders.

CapeCodMermaid, RN · Jun 10, 2013

I wonder how many of you complain when you have to work short because the person calling out didn't give enough notice so the shift could be filled. I'm sure you'll find some way to blame management.

That said, a no call/ no show is just that. You are scheduled for a shift and don't call and don't show. Unless you're half dead on the highway, there really is NO excuse not to call.....

And my other favorite is someone who comes to work for about 10 minutes, claims to be sick, and then wants to go home saying they 'hate to call out.' All that does is make everyone else work short since there is NO time to try to find a replacement.

amygarside · Jun 10, 2013

There are different policies in a medical care facility. When it is just your first time, I don't think they will fire you for it. Maybe you need to talk to your supervisor so that you would have a clearer picture of what is really the right way to go about it.

CityRN123 · Jun 10, 2013

When I first started my job I didn't know the policy and called out sick 3.5 hours before the start of my shift and was told it would be considered an absence and I would not receive sick pay. Apparently on our unit policy was 2 hours before start of shift on days, 4 hours on nights. I spoke with my nurse manager and explained tht those rules were not told to us in orientation an I would know it from then on and she switched it on my record from a no show to a sick day.