I went to the funeral of a former coworker who died, and was covid positive. This person was in their 20s. I learned that the family had requested an autopsy that had been denied by the coroner. This was because the patient was covid positive. The family wanted to understand what contributed to this sudden death, the patient had been recovering at home and had sudden exasperation of respiratory issues, and had a cardiac arrest during the transfer.
So, I can see a thriller movie in the future about someone who murders their significant other, who happens to be covid positive and recovering at home.
Allnurses it's always been filled with people who take themselves too seriously. They like to hair split about one thing or another. Some people just like to argue. Or else they like being in an echo chamber and preach to their own personal choir. It's always good when you have one person to beat on, who maybe put their foot in their mouth or disagrees with the mainstream opinion. This covid section is filled with that type for some reason. The people who just want to get cheered on while telling people such exciting things such as, get vaccinated, and how horrible and heartless people are who have a different point of view. Because this is America, the home of the free and the land of the brave, and whoever disagrees with my opinion is very opinionated and a threat to the common good.
I'm just not ready yet for monetizing Covid deaths.
Allnurses it's always been filled with people who take themselves too seriously. They like to hair split about one thing or another. Some people just like to argue. Or else they like being in an echo chamber and preach to their own personal choir. It's always good when you have one person to beat on, who maybe put their foot in their mouth or disagrees with the mainstream opinion. This covid section is filled with that type for some reason. The people who just want to get cheered on while telling people such exciting things such as, get vaccinated, and how horrible and heartless people are who have a different point of view. Because this is America, the home of the free and the land of the brave, and whoever disagrees with my opinion is very opinionated and a threat to the common good [emphasis added].
I'm just not ready yet for monetizing Covid deaths.
I don't think he or she is just referring to this thread, which I tend to agree with. And, I think this could be applied to many of the threads in some of the other sections as well.
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I don't think he or she is just referring to this thread, which I tend to agree with. And, I think this could be applied to many of the threads in some of the other sections as well.
It's just that in the political threads we're talking fact and opinion of the fact. Mostly the disagreement is about opinion.
In the covid threads the disagreement is about facts and the public health recommendations for pandemic response. There is a prevailing attitude that the voices correctly advocating for vaccination during this pandemic should be humble or polite or respectful or careful not to upset people who are not advocating or who are opposed to vaccination. Nearly two years into this pandemic, 775,000 dead Americans, more than 16 trillion dollars in economic costs, millions of Americans with long term health issues from covid disease and a health system which has been stretched past its effective elasticity, it should be easy to imagine that some of us might be a bit impatient at this point. Rightly so.
I am pretty opinionated in the politics section. I am appreciative of factual information and documentation. We all have opinions about those facts. There's lots of disagreement, often about trivial concerns in my view. Disagreement there is with an individual. Disagreement here is with science, facts, evidence, expert opinion and public health recommendations during a pandemic.
I don't think he or she is just referring to this thread, which I tend to agree with. And, I think this could be applied to many of the threads in some of the other sections as well.
I enjoy reading literate conservative columnists. But MOST, NOT ALL of the conservatives who post here cite the crazies instead of folks who actually understand how to get a government to work for the people. But don't give the nasty people who just spit and snarl without actually giving out much information or thinking power but are very free with their opinions. I don't consider the DailyMail or the NY Post as legitimate sources of anything. The Post has to explain everything in, at the most, five paragraphs and Ben Shapiro is just a nasty guy who has no sense of humor. I get the sense that he doesn't understand or care about modern life for the average working person either. He should probably just teach at Hillsdale.
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Actually autopsies in general are becoming a less common practice. I remember 7 years ago one of my group home clients an otherwise healthy 60 year old died while in the home. No autopsy was done and the coroner was not even involved. Police on the scene released the body to a mortuary, Cause of death signed by a physician who to my knowledge never examined the patient wrote sudden cardiac death on the death cert.
I did just read that a group of physicians did a public autopsy on a patient who died of covid in a public venue that observeres paid $500.00 a pop to attend.
I didn't find anything specific about autopsies being denied for Covid 19 patients. It seems the WHO does not recommend them but the CDC states it's up to the local coroner.
I did just read that a group of physicians did a public autopsy on a patient who died of covid in a public venue that observeres paid $500.00 a pop to attend.
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Yes, I heard this last week. What I heard, and can't remember where, made it sound as if he had planned this. However, this doesn't seem to be the case.
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When Saunders’ wife donated her husband’s body to Med ED Labs, she recalls she was told the Las Vegas-based company would use his body for research and return his cremated remains in an urn.
“As far as I’m concerned, it’s horrible, unethical, and I just don’t have the words to describe it,” Elsie Saunders, the wife of David Saunders, told Baton Rouge-based newspaper The Advocate. “I have all this paperwork that says his body would be used for science — nothing about this commercialization of his death.”
But media company Death Science bought Saunders’ body from Med ED Labs for use in a “Cadaver Lab Class” held during the Oddities and Curiosities Expo, an annual traveling event marketed toward “lovers of the strange, unusual and bizarre.”
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Shocked at the cynicism above.
A perfectly innocent post about a movie plot that just happens repeat one of the many false claims out there that is dragging out this pandemic.
After all, the OP did put a question mark at the end of the false claim.
Also, you missed the part where the OP clarified that, of course, autopsies are allowed in Covid cases.