new grad NP passed ANCC, & just learned program did not receive accreditation

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Any advice for new grad adult-geri NP who passed ANCC exam and now learned the program did not get accredited. Now ANCC will not release results to any BON.

I owe a huge amount of student loans and cannot get an NP license.

Can someone advise me what to do? The VP of school says we have a valid MSN but cannot practice until school gets accreditation.

Please advise!!!

I am already feeling terrible about my decision and the ramifications. I am attending a meeting tomorrow at the school to determine why we were not accredited after being reassured this would happen. After I get an answer tomorrow on what went wrong with process, I will be more that happy to provide further info. Chastising me for my stupidity is not helping any. We (students) agreed to listen to there plan tomorrow prior to discussing publicly.

Since you are not quoting people in your responses I have no idea who you feel is "chastising" you. What I will say is I hope you are able to get your degree conferred and your license granted. I also hope you learn from this experience as it is a very important and expensive lesson to learn. You really should state the name of the school so others can avoid this scam-school btw.

I firmly believe in buyer-beware in life. I also firmly believe that any unaccredited program that accepts money, ESPECIALLY federal school loan money should be prosecuted into non-existence. It is fundamentally criminal that these programs are allowed to exist as they are professionally run scams that threaten the very credibility of this profession and are the single biggest argument AGAINST NPs as a legit healthcare provider.

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I am concerned for you and wish you the best...however, I highly doubt it was a "reputable" college if they couldn't even gain NP accreditation, which is not terribly difficult to do. I can only imagine it was a for-profit, and many of us on here have preached about the downfalls of for profits over, and over, and over again. Let this be a lesson to others.

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You really should state the name of the school so others can avoid this scam-school btw.

I doubt he/she will do that. As I said before, the OP is deliberately concealing this information for selfish reason. What I find strange is an individual with an MSN reply to other individual comments without referencing the original blogger's comment. The OP did this 5 or 6 times.

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Let's wait and see what prevails after the meeting and not pressure OP to reveal name of institution.

OP, if you are seeking any type of legal action, it's best you contact Administration for us to remove this thread from view as an Attorney will advise you to do so.

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I sure did attend a sch that was not accredited!!!! 40 lashes....I know hindsight is 20/20. We were led to believe that it would be no problem obtaining accreditation. I was accredited for all undergrad nursing and it was a new program at a reputable private sch.

Folks, the OP has already stated that this is a new NP program at a school with an accredited undergraduate nursing program. Every new nursing program, pre-licensure or graduate, starts out without accreditation; you can't get CCNE or ACEN accreditation until you've graduated some classes that have taken boards and the accrediting organization can see the school's outcomes.

If the OP had come here before applying and said s/he was considering applying to a new NP program at a reputable school with an existing, accredited nursing program, was that safe to do, a lot of people here would say it's somewhat risky, but probably will turn out okay. If no one signed up for new, not-yet-accredited programs, those programs would never be able to get accredited. Somebody has to be the "guinea pigs," or there would never be any more accredited schools than there are right now. Every old, established, respectable SON went through this same process at some point. It's unfortunate for the OP that the school wasn't successful in getting accreditation (this time), but that doesn't mean that the school is a "scam" or intentionally ripping people off.

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Exactly Elkpark.

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Folks, the OP has already stated that this is a new NP program at a school with an accredited undergraduate nursing program. Every new nursing program, pre-licensure or graduate, starts out without accreditation; you can't get CCNE or ACEN accreditation until you've graduated some classes that have taken boards and the accrediting organization can see the school's outcomes.

If the OP had come here before applying and said s/he was considering applying to a new NP program at a reputable school with an existing, accredited nursing program, was that safe to do, a lot of people here would say it's somewhat risky, but probably will turn out okay. If no one signed up for new, not-yet-accredited programs, those programs would never be able to get accredited. Somebody has to be the "guinea pigs," or there would never be any more accredited schools than there are right now. Every old, established, respectable SON went through this same process at some point. It's unfortunate for the OP that the school wasn't successful in getting accreditation (this time), but that doesn't mean that the school is a "scam" or intentionally ripping people off.

Well thanks for finally clearing that up. Had that been said sooner....well whatever.

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Well thanks for finally clearing that up. Had that been said sooner....well whatever.

"Well whatever" what? You would not have immediately jumped to the "scam/rip-off/shut it down" rant? One always has the option of seeking more information rather than jumping to conclusions. :)

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Folks, the OP has already stated that this is a new NP program at a school with an accredited undergraduate nursing program. Every new nursing program, pre-licensure or graduate, starts out without accreditation; you can't get CCNE or ACEN accreditation until you've graduated some classes that have taken boards and the accrediting organization can see the school's outcomes.

Essentially what you are saying here is that the institution that the OP attended deliberately misled the incoming class when the school promised accreditation before or after the first graduating class. Is that your take on the matter? What I find comical about the whole process is that the boards would not release exam scores unless the institution is accredited. There is also the issue: is the accreditation retroactive to the first NP graduating class if the process wasn't initiated during the period the class was enrolled at the school.

So, if the promise of accreditation was fraudulently made, wouldn't "scam" or "intentionally ripping people off" be the appropriate label? You seem to be making the case for the latter, while arriving at an erroneous conclusion. Do you even get?

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Folks, the OP has already stated that this is a new NP program at a school with an accredited undergraduate nursing program. Every new nursing program, pre-licensure or graduate, starts out without accreditation; you can't get CCNE or ACEN accreditation until you've graduated some classes that have taken boards and the accrediting organization can see the school's outcomes.

If the OP had come here before applying and said s/he was considering applying to a new NP program at a reputable school with an existing, accredited nursing program, was that safe to do, a lot of people here would say it's somewhat risky, but probably will turn out okay. If no one signed up for new, not-yet-accredited programs, those programs would never be able to get accredited. Somebody has to be the "guinea pigs," or there would never be any more accredited schools than there are right now. Every old, established, respectable SON went through this same process at some point. It's unfortunate for the OP that the school wasn't successful in getting accreditation (this time), but that doesn't mean that the school is a "scam" or intentionally ripping people off.

I get the guinea pig part but why would anyone pony up the cash to be trial subjects for accreditation then cry foul when they graduate and pass boards. There a a bazillion NP programs out there, the OP should have seen this coming....

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I get the guinea pig part but why would anyone pony up the cash to be trial subjects for accreditation then cry foul when they graduate and pass boards. There a a bazillion NP programs out there, the OP should have seen this coming....

Because the vast majority of pre NPs do absolutely 0 research and actually choose their program based on advertisements and tv commercials? Because most people here value speed and ease of admissions of education quality?

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Essentially what you are saying here is that the institution that the OP attended deliberately misled the incoming class when the school promised accreditation before or after the first graduating class. Is that your take on the matter? What I find comical about the whole process is that the boards would not release exam scores unless the institution is accredited. There is also the issue: is the accreditation retroactive to the first NP graduating class if the process wasn't initiated during the period the class was enrolled at the school.

So, if the promise of accreditation was fraudulently made, wouldn't "scam" or "intentionally ripping people off" be the appropriate label? You seem to be making the case for the latter, while arriving at an erroneous conclusion. Do you even get?

Do I even get what? I do not see the word "promise" anywhere in the OP's posts. I see "led to believe" and "reassured." How much experience do you have in nursing education and the accreditation process? I've been in and out of nursing education over the 20 years since I finished grad school, teaching in ADN and BSN programs, and dealing with accreditation issues. If the school actually promised the students the program would get accreditation, that was egregious but I doubt v. much that is what the students were told (because I can't imagine any experienced, responsible nurse educator saying something that dumb). I'm guessing (based on experience) that the students were told something along the lines of, this is a new program; because of that, it is currently unaccredited, but our undergraduate nursing program is successful and has been accredited for many years, and we do not anticipate any difficulties with obtaining accreditation for the new graduate program, which is a perfectly truthful, reasonable, and appropriate statement under the circumstances.

I stand by my earlier statement -- if the OP came here prior to enrolling and asked, I'm thinking of attending a new NP program at a reputable school that has an established, accredited undergraduate nursing program, is that an okay thing to do, many of us here, including myself, would say, well, you need to understand that you're taking the risk that the school will end up not getting accredited on its first try but, given that the school has a successful undergrad program that's accredited, it will probably work out okay. That, too, is a reasonable and appropriate statement. Obviously, something went wrong and that's v. unfortunate for the OP, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the school did anything wrong, let alone anything that could be described as "fraudulent" or "intentionally ripping people off."

If accreditation is awarded to a school that completes the candidacy process (which takes a few years, and, for a new program, involves a few years of graduating classes to see what the outcomes of the program are), the accreditation is retroactive to the point of the CCNE/ACEN site visit; so, if the school ends up being awarded accreditation, students who were enrolled and attending at the time of the site visit, but graduated prior to the official accreditation being awarded, become graduates of an accredited program.

There are schools people post about here, mostly proprietary tech-voch schools, who lure students in by telling them they're working on getting ACEN accreditation when the truth is they haven't even applied for candidacy. They're "working on" it in the sense of thinking about maybe doing it some day. That, IMO, is clearly fraudulent. This sounds like a v. different situation. The school had applied for accreditation in good faith, something went wrong with the process, and the school is working with the students (sounds like, from what the OP has posted) to try to find a remedy. That's v. different.

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