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  1. futureeastcoastNP

    List of 100% Online Acute Care NP Programs

    Actually, I did find an online PA program. First I've heard of it. From University of Wiconsin. Still, a PA asking this same question would be laughed at considering their "online" program requires 12 weeks on campus at the beginning, plus 2 campus visits per semester. And of course the school sets up clinicals. why on earth would someone want to find a program to become an ACNP with no hands on instruction? And why do such programs exist? It honestly blows my mind the corners people try to cut on their way to becoming a provider. Maybe they should just put NP degrees in Cracker Jack boxes.
  2. futureeastcoastNP

    List of 100% Online Acute Care NP Programs

    No, there isn't. The only online PA program that exists is an online masters completion program for PAs who already have a bachelors or certificate in PA studies. They've already done the hands on training/clinicals. There is no entry level PA program online.
  3. futureeastcoastNP

    List of 100% Online Acute Care NP Programs

    Really? Heaven forbid you have to "inconvenience" yourself learning skills in person before becoming a provider and taking care of patients. How do you expect the school to ensure you know what you need to know, especially as an ACNP? Could you imagine a medical or PA student asking this question? They would be laughed out of the room.
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    South University FNP MSN program???

    Um, no. South University is a for profit school. There are no for profit medical or pharmacy schools because they know for profits tend to ruin professional image. I think you looked up the wrong school. There is no Souh University medical school. Also it's cheaper than Simmons and Georgetown because you get what you pay for...
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    Boycott schools that make you find your own preceptors

    I think that perfectly sums up how I feel about what zmansc has been saying. zmansc, we understand that sometimes rural students need to set up their own clinicals since they don't have local programs. BUT as llg stated, there is a huge difference in having that as an option versus being required to do it because your school refuses to help. Why can't you see that? No one is saying it should never be allowed, but it should ONLY be allowed as a secondary option for students in rural areas. There is no excuse for these programs located in huge metropolitan areas not to set up clinicals. Basically, and I've said this before, all programs should be required to find clinicals for students who live within a certain school radius. If you choose to attend at a distance, then the school is not required to find them. However, if you choose to move within a 50 mile radius for the clinical portion, the school must find them and set them up. its a very simple solution and it makes no sense that you are so against this. It preserves your precocious ability to find them if you choose, but also doesn't let crappy programs get away with not providing them out of greed and laziness.
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    Let's make a list of all online FNP programs

    Yes, they have, as have some other states including NY. This is wonderful and I hope more states do it, because it prevents those diploma mill for profits from operating. NC has plenty of NP programs so there is no excuse for people to go to Kaplan or Walden except laziness. Duke looked like a great program and they clearly put a lot into their online component, including setting up clinicals for ALL online students. That's the difference between a program that actually cares about its reputation, and one that doesn't. Duke's medical and PA schools are tops in the country, so the NP program has to keep up the tradition so to speak lol.
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    online FNP program no GRE for NC

    The GRE probably is useless in most master and PhD programs, where the phenomenon of "self selection" occurs (aka: only the bright apply in the first place). As we have seen from posts on this board, every nurse thinks they are entitled to become a nurse practitioner, even if they are complete idiots. As such, the GRE would be a useful tool in weeding those people out. There is no self selection factor in nursing due to the flexibility and ease of the education.
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    Let's make a list of all online FNP programs

    Good luck! I did a ton of research on online programs in case I wasn't able to get into my local program (Columbia) and by far the top 3 seem to be Georgetown, Simmons, and Duke. All of them have big names, especially in healthcare, and no one would ever see any of them as diploma mills. Reviews from students state that they are tough, in depth, and have a lot of oversight in clinicals and on campus sessions. It's evident even on this website, as you'll find that the students/graduates of these programs come across as very eloquent and knowledgable in their posts. These are the programs that should be the models for other online programs - a far cry from what students receive from low tier schools, especially for profits. I'd check out all three, because they are also all fairly competitive for admissions. Let us know how everything turns out!
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    Duke FNP Fall 2015

    It's a wonderful service to the patients of NC, however, as they won't run into as many for profits grads unprepared to treat them. I applaud any state that takes steps to limit the ability for any idiot nurse to become an NP. It seems in NC, you must actually work hard and get into a real school. Good. The boards don't enforce standards so I'm glad at least some states do.
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    Boycott schools that make you find your own preceptors

    zmansc, Every time this comes up, you defend it because it worked for YOU. I understand that it worked for you. We all do. But things just fell fell into place for you - you had a network of contacts and were able to set up excellent clinical sites. Your case, however wonderful, is NOT typical. This forum is inundated everyday with people begging for preceptors because they can't find one. There are tons of people setting up clinical sites from schools that DON'T vet the preceptor and do not do site visits. I've read stories of people precepting with their friend who signs them off for more hours than they actually did, people precepting with clueless new grads, etc. We are making PROVIDERS - people who make the final decision in a patients healthcare. If even one student can slip through the cracks and have terrible clinicals that lead them to be unprepared for taking care of a patient, that is one too many. Basically, you have to stop looking at this from your point of view and really think about the dangers. Think about all the ways a self directed clinical site can go wrong. Think about the fact that while the intentions may be good (to help train rural providers) that's not how most schools are using it. Do you think Kaplan and Walden and the other for profit schools have students find clinicals because they care about rural healthcare providers? No, we all know the real reason they do it, and it's embarrassing for the schools, and ultimately the profession. Look beyond your personal situation and realize that supporting this practice probably creates 1 good situation for every 100 bad ones. It's not worth it. They can find another way to support rural healthcare development because this isn't working.
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    Let's make a list of all online FNP programs

    Hi uscg2RN, I go to Columbia for my NP program currently. No, there are no good for profit programs. Outside of nursing, for profit schools are a joke. They don't exist in medicine or PA programs. Highly educated/intelligent people see them as diploma mills. I know they are popular with nurses but they are very unprofessional and very embarrassing for the field of nursing. They have well documented problems and I would never trust a healthcare provider who attended one.
  12. futureeastcoastNP

    ku vs vanderbilt vs southern alabama

    they are including living expenses. That will throw off calculations. You need to compare cost of tuition online.
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    ku vs vanderbilt vs southern alabama

    Where do you get that? Vanderbilt tuition is $1195 per credit, and the FNP is 39 credits = $46k
  14. futureeastcoastNP

    Boycott schools that make you find your own preceptors

    They don't. And do you really think places like Walden or other for profit (and a lot of greedy not for profits) care whether or not they are creating competent providers? If they did they wouldn't have them find their own preceptors in the first place.
  15. futureeastcoastNP

    Finding Preceptors?

    Thats the school giving them some flexibility regarding less than 5% of their overall clinical hours when residency is factored in, with the vast majority of med student hours still being entirely set up and facilitated by the school with major oversight. And, as you said, it is optional. The image I see here is a bright med student who knows a doctor he shadowed during undergrad and is given the chance to do a rotation with him if he so chooses. Contrast this with the online NP student cold calling offices and begging on allnurses threads, willing to drive up to 2 hours if they can just find ANYONE so they don't fail out of use program. The situations are not at all analogous. Far from it. One is to allow flexibility and expand horizons while the other is the shifting of responsibility on the gullible student so the schools don't have to deal with it or pay for it, and can take maximum students without the limiting factor of running out of preceptors. All the accrediting agencies have to do is add one simple little clause to the accreditation requirements and we could fix so many issues in NP education: schools must provide preceptors. Suddenly, the for profits would no longer be interested (benefit #1), remaining programs would take less students and become more selective (benefit #2), probably begin requiring more out of candidates such as higher GRE scores and interviews (benefit #3), clinicals would be more structured (benefit #4), and unintelligent nurses who seem to be able to get into NP programs due to lax standards and for profit programs taking anyone would finally be kept away from the provider role (benefit #6). It would also have the effect of increasing the professional image, stopping oversaturation, raising salaries, etc. Too bad all the boards care about is money and power.
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    Let's make a list of all online FNP programs

    Most of these are for profit programs. Better advice would be to look at the USNews top NP programs list and then see which programs from THAT list have an online component. Those are the more reputable programs compared to these.