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New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand Part 2

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Good day everyone.

Okay, so I've successfully read all 820 pages of this thread and it has helped out a lot. Really comprehensive. Although I only scanned the latter parts of the thread cause majority of the posts have been redundant.

I'm pretty much clear with all the requirements needed, where to send the application, etc. and hopefully I get to gather and send all of it this or the next couple of months.

I graduated 2011 and recently just passed the NLE last December. I have no experience at all since I did just pass the NLE. Though I've been taking up seminars and courses (BLS, ACLS, IVT, etc.) which I think would be useful for me "personally" as this would give me additional knowledge in performing certain procedures and since, from what I've read in some posts, those certificates aren't really recognized in Australia. I would like to address these queries to cerydwin, joiemike, bobby or cioman as you guys are the most knowledgeable in this thread and with these kind of situations.

I'm planning to take up an EMT course here in the Philippines. After i'm done with the course my next step would be is to volunteer as one since i've read in the AGOS-40 form that you need at least 3 months full time experience. My questions are:

1. Would this volunteer experience as an EMT be considered as a "nursing" experience? I know it seems apparent because obviously both fields are the different, but just to clarify things and since those fields are relatively the same, i'd still push through with the question.

2. This EMT course i'm pursuing is Australian accredited, well at least according to the institution that conducts this course, it is. The certificates and ID's actually comes from Australia and they said those licenses are valid for a year. So my question is, would this course increase, even just the slightest nudge, my chances in landing a job in Australia? Especially in the hospital setting? The fact that those licenses are Australian accredited?

I have other questions but i'll just stick with these two first so as not to ask too much from you guys. Thanks!

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Can you give me any suggestions of agency here in the Philippines that offer work &study program for Australia...I'm planning to study 1yr in Brisbane Aus.,but have to work in a nursing home to pay for my expenses also..I need an enlightenment to anyone who are concerned about my querries..

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iamnomad has 5 years experience and specializes in Acute Care. ER. Aged Care/LTC. Psyche.

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1. Based on my understanding and from what I've been reading, the experience you gained should be within the capacity of a registered nurse. That's why they "accept" volunteer experience as long as the task that these volunteers are performing is still within the scope of nursing practice.

2. I personally think that EMT experience will somehow help you in finding a job, but maybe not as much as a nursing experience would. I mean, both professions are still under health care and skills are sometimes transferable. But again, the scope of practice is different. Some (or most) employers would want to see actual nursing experience. Others are saying that the job market is beginning to get tight so it will be to your advantage to have a nursing experience.

I'm sure other members have a better opinion. Good Luck.

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Hey iamnomad. Thanks a lot for your input. I guess I really do need to apply for a nursing position. I mean, I really don't have any problem in working as a nurse, the thing is IT REALLY IS DIFFICULT to acquire a decent position here in the PI. Not to mention, you won't be paid for a certain amount of time if you do get one. It really is frustrating looking for a job without you actually getting something from it, financial wise that is. Yes, there's that fulfillment of having to help someone out, you gain knowledge and familiarity through it, but practically speaking especially nowadays, that "fulfillment" isn't enough to build a life. Oh well. Just thinking out loud. Haha.

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iamnomad has 5 years experience and specializes in Acute Care. ER. Aged Care/LTC. Psyche.

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Hey iamnomad. Thanks a lot for your input. I guess I really do need to apply for a nursing position. I mean, I really don't have any problem in working as a nurse, the thing is IT REALLY IS DIFFICULT to acquire a decent position here in the PI. Not to mention, you won't be paid for a certain amount of time if you do get one. It really is frustrating looking for a job without you actually getting something from it, financial wise that is. Yes, there's that fulfillment of having to help someone out, you gain knowledge and familiarity through it, but practically speaking especially nowadays, that "fulfillment" isn't enough to build a life. Oh well. Just thinking out loud. Haha.

i totally understand. we all need some sort of monetary gains in order to survive. but think of your nursing experience as an investment for your future. the more experience you get, the higher the chances of being employed abroad. but always remember that money is just one part of the game. we still need the passion to care above everything else.

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i totally understand. we all need some sort of monetary gains in order to survive. but think of your nursing experience as an investment for your future. the more experience you get, the higher the chances of being employed abroad. but always remember that money is just one part of the game. we still need the passion to care above everything else.

Of course. I'm a dude and I was never a part of the cliche "my parents just forced me to take up nursing". I actually wanted to be nurse. Haha. I don't know. There's just something about helping others out that entices me. Hahaha. Its sorta sad that everyone here, or mostly, is doing voluntary work cause its a "requirement" and not cause they genuinely want to do it. Not everyone okay? - don't get me wrong here. Hahaha.

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I personally have never heard of EMT's. Our para medics in Victoria, get diplomas and Batchelor degrees in emergency medicine.

I have never heard of them in Queensland or NSW. They may be used at private functions maybe. We have St johns ambulance for first aide at events and para medic standby. There are transport services for hospital transfers etc, but they are not called EMT.

Telling an employer that you have EMT experience will not help at all if most have never heard of this job, and if you have no RN experience. This could not be put in your nursing experience CV. It may help if going for a ED position only and you explain what it is and what experience you have gained. BLS and IV part of our nursing degree education so therefore they are not recognised outside a nursing degree.

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Victoria is crazy fast these days. don't try submitting to WA, submitted mine there last dec 2011 still no LOE upto now. Ladydee-rn submitted hers oct and she hasn't received hers either.

hey aila61,,i already have a pending application in NSW and ive been waiting for 4 months now and still my docs are on the queue waiting for assessment..

i just wonder if you have any idea,if its advisable to send another set of documents in Victoria if thats the speediest processing state as of the moment..?because that last time i checked,,they would only allow to transfer the application if i could provide an address on that state (which i dont have,cause im just here in manila).

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hey aila61,,i already have a pending application in NSW and ive been waiting for 4 months now and still my docs are on the queue waiting for assessment..i just wonder if you have any idea,if its advisable to send another set of documents in Victoria if thats the speediest processing state as of the moment..?because that last time i checked,,they would only allow to transfer the application if i could provide an address on that state (which i dont have,cause im just here in manila).
how come their asking for an address in victoria? i happen to know someone who submitted hers in wa initially then requested that her application be transferred to victoria. her case officer then sent her files to vic without any additional requirements.

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sledcrn specializes in renal department.

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is it really required to get detailed course description besides from you TOR? mine is like 100 pages up. should i have every page notarized??

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iamnomad has 5 years experience and specializes in Acute Care. ER. Aged Care/LTC. Psyche.

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is it really required to get detailed course description besides from you TOR? mine is like 100 pages up. should i have every page notarized??

Mine was 4 pages, very brief, TOR.

The first 2 pages list all the subjects undertaken (including general education) with corresponding units and grade earned. The last 2 pages specifically list all the nursing-related subjects with brief descriptions, units and grade earned, then the number of theory/lecture and clinical hours.

I got my approval without any problems. But I guess that also depends on your case officer. Or if AHPRA is familiar with the school and have handled previous applications from these schools. I don't know.

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iamnomad has 5 years experience and specializes in Acute Care. ER. Aged Care/LTC. Psyche.

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Oh I didn't have to notarize mine because our school did that. So I submitted it sealed from the school envelope.

Check your TOR if there's any marking in there that says "certified" or "authenticated" or check your school if they have this kind of service.

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