Due to recent changes regarding applications for International nurses to Australia and the combining of the nursing boards to one central nursing board in Australia AHPRA I have started a new thread for people to discuss the new process on working in Australia.
Currently New Zealand is not accepting new applicants from International trained nurses except those that meet the Trans Tasman Mutual Recognition Agreement {TTMR} this will be updated once the New Zealand nursing board reopen their books to International nurses.
Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency AHPRA
@miks103 Yes you would need to exit the country after 3 months from the date of entry for the 456. When I was applying for my 456, I asked about it as well and the embassy personnel told me that you can convert the visa. :)
@miks103 Yes you would need to exit the country after 3 months from the date of entry for the 456. When I was applying for my 456, I asked about it as well and the embassy personnel told me that you can convert the visa. :)
Or probably to save, we can opt for the return ticket only until Singapore LoL... then take a vacation first then go back to Aus ^_^
Or probably to save, we can opt for the return ticket only until Singapore LoL... then take a vacation first then go back to Aus ^_^
Where are you taking your BP needle?
I'll take my BP at the VCHN campus in Victoria. I only have 14 days to go before leaving so I'm up against the wall making last minute arrangements; it explains my tardy answer too ;p
I'll take my BP at the VCHN campus in Victoria. I only have 14 days to go before leaving so I'm up against the wall making last minute arrangements; it explains my tardy answer too ;p
Hey, you guys! I have been silently following this very useful thread for almost a year now. Thanks for all the information you posted here. I just would like to ask a question. In AGOS-04 page 6, it states that "In accordance with the Recency of practice registration standard, practice is not restricted to the provision of direct clinical care. It also includes working in a DIRECT NONCLINICAL relationship with clients..."[/i][/i] I am a registered nurse and an ICD-10 coder as well. My responsibility as coder is basically about helping patients process their health insurance claims. I wonder if a job as ICD-10 coder will be credited in "recency of practice"? I sent a message to the AHPRA website, but they haven't replied yet. I was wondering if anyone knows about this. Thank you!:)
'It also includes working in a direct nonclinical relationship with clients, working in management, administration, education, research, advisory, regulatory or policy development roles, and any other roles that impact on safe, effective delivery of services in the profession and/or use of professional skills.' AHPRA form AGOS 04 Q18 accessed 9/3/11
If you are not providing clinical care, you are not providing research, management, nor education to the profession then I would think you could not consider this nursing of any kind.
I know lots of nurses that have been injured and become ward clerks or telephonists or medical file people,who under arguments provided here could be thought that they provide service to patients as service and advocates sometimes using their nursing knowledge.
The reality is they did not keep their nursing registrations because they were not contributing in anyway....like giving care, research nor education, policy development, management to the nursing profession. related to health, yes, nursing, no.
Many coders here are not medical people it is done by administration personel, so a nurse working in that area would not be considered actually 'nursing'
Well, since AHPRA clearly stated in the AGOS-04 Form that the 'Recency of Practice' would include working in a NONCLINICAL but Direct relationship with clients, then might as well include it. Again, theory-wise, 'roles of the nurse' are not restricted to clinical care (teaching, training, nursing informatics, legal nurse consultants, hospital administrator, chief nurse, nurse entrepreneur and many more.) :)
@zonroxRN
From the context of where you came from, the culture and practices where you practice and the purpose of why you were hired, its only you who would know and decide whether to include it or not. There is no harm right? ^_^V
Well, since AHPRA clearly stated in the AGOS-04 Form that the 'Recency of Practice' would include working a NONCLINICAL but Direct relationship with clients, then might as well include it. Again, theory-wise, 'roles of the nurse' are not restricted to clinical care (teaching, training, nursing informatics, legal nurse consultants, hospital administrator, chief nurse et.al.) :)
Again, according to AHPRA it is doing something for the professional, management, policy development, education, clinical, not coding private health insurance claims....this has nothing, nothing to do with the nursing profession. Your knowledge may be an advantage, but you are not using it for the advancement of nursing....gee everything I do everyday I could relate to my nursing..if that is the case. Your argument has flaws, if you work in a pharmacy selling meds, are you going to claim this as recency of practise as well, due to your knowledge in nursing as the argument and being the consumers advocate.?
As I said before many nurses go into different health roles and cannot count it as 'recency of practise'
anyway it is neither here nor there, as AHPRA register people with zero experience..but do not loose our professional respect and value and being a coder for private health insurance claims is not part of (here in Australia anyway) of the nursing profession. It is also quite academic as it can be claim to AHPRA but I would not think it would be given any consideration, though stranger things have happened.
LoL nope... look where the "commas" are... AHPRA separated 'working in direct nonclinical" et.al. and management, administration et. al. Besides, I did say it should not be limited to just 'processing of insurance claims' right? I did say it must embrace a wider scope such as advising for a better insurance plan, negotiating denied claims et. al. Ofcourse if you merely sell meds in the pharmacy its completely different from being a nurse consultant working with the director of the pharmacy for cost-effectiveness medications which will improve the health care system.
That's why its only the person involve who can really actually describe if what he does is in the nursing context or not :)
I won't pursue this further, we all have our opinions on this :)
I'll take my BP at the VCHN campus in Victoria. I only have 14 days to go before leaving so I'm up against the wall making last minute arrangements; it explains my tardy answer too ;p
the bridging at con is only 2 months. so that means i still have 1 month left to stay in oz since the 456 visa is for 3 months. but there's no assurance that my ahpra nursing registration will be granted within a month after i finish the bridging program. i do not have the luxury of touring oz for the remaining month of my stay. and i can't work either. i don't want to sit and do nothing while spending oz dollars waiting. even if i'm granted nursing registration immediately after passing the bridging program, i don't know when i will be able to find a sponsor.
is it possible to convert the 456 visa into tourist while in oz? if yes, so can i stay for another 3 months (for a total of 6 months straight in oz) bec i thought visa applicants should get their visa in their country of origin (in my case phil)
so should i maximize the 3 months or should i just exit oz right after the bridging program (2 months only) ? or to be flexible, just buy a one way ticket?
needlefoxRN
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@miks103 Yes you would need to exit the country after 3 months from the date of entry for the 456. When I was applying for my 456, I asked about it as well and the embassy personnel told me that you can convert the visa. :)