Wow it seems that we will have to spend more than HALF A MILLION PESOS before we can start working as an "Aged care worker", not a nurse for practically 2 years. So sad to think that only quiet a few can afford this. Not to mention the financial support and show money?
I met many Australians, and they informed me that actually they badly need us Asian nurses to fill the space that their own nurses are leaving. Their own nurses are leaving for England to earn more than they can in their own country. So why are we having difficulties in applying there? Maybe somebody is giving us some hardtimes or in the middle of this bussines ridden careers. Maybe you can do your own math.
This is just my own opinion guys. You don't have to take this personally. (ha ha ha)
It is really quite a lot... I just got the email yesterday and was shocked as well.
About your second statement, yes, they do need nurses to fill in their staff, but they need to make sure the nurses filling in are competent enough that's why it takes so long. In reality, they really need experienced nurses more than anything else. Any immigration process is supposed to be difficult - it is actually quite easier in Australia compared to other countries. Nobody really is giving us a hard time, it's just our frustrations.
Hang on there... key to success is patience and perseverance
man, this is a looooong thread but i must say it's worth the read! thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and helping out those who might also want to explore the opportunities in aus.
i would just like to clarify a few things, to make sure i understand the process correctly, hope you guys can help me.
1. the whole process from the submission of application to the issuance of license will take around 1 year?
this would really depend on a lot of things but might take around 8 months up to 2 years. this is a wide range because i considered factors like if you take the modules and follow the 3 months format per module. the average though, from the people i know, takes about 8 to 12 months to finish.
2. if you took the challenge test and passed parts a and b, you'll become a licensed/registered nurse for australia, right?
correct.
3. that will then allow you to look for an employer who will in turn sponsor your visa?
you can look for an employer even if you are not sponsored yet. you might be able to find an employer who will be willing to sponsor you once you are done with the bridging program.
as of now i dont intend to become a permanent resident, so the temporary long stay visa is the one i need, correct?
yes, 457 visa will be a good choice for you.
4. how long is the license/passing of the cas valid?
as far as i know, registration in australia has to be renewed every year.
do i have to find an employer and file for the visa immediately?
for a 457 visa, the employer has to file first the sponsorship and nomination. once approved, you can then lodge the 457 visa application.
as some of you have mentioned, most hospitals prefer applicants with at least 1 year of experience (which i dont have yet). i was thinking, would it be ok for me to still work here in the philippines for a couple of months to a year after i passed the challenge test, just so i could improve my chances on landing a job in a decent hospital instead of a nursing home and at the same time gain more confidence as a nurse? what could be the implications of that route?
it would be a good idea but don’t take too long if ever. you might also be offered a place in the hospital where you will have your clinical placement if ever – this really depends but it can happen.
5. how long do contracts (with hospital) usually last? that is, without the help of an agency?
contracts can be from 1, 2, up to 3 years usually. most of them are renewable anyway. should you breech the terms of the contract, you have to pay certain fees.
6. if found job hunting to be difficult, are there agencies that can help me? coz the ones i've read about so far offer help with the whole package, starting with the tests (at least the ones here in the philippines) down to clinica placement. what if the latter is my only concern, would that be a plus or a minus on my part?
yes, there are agencies that are willing to help with employment. if you have at least a year experience then there are a lot in australia that can help you – whether you are in australia or out of australia. i also know of one agency that will still assist with this, it will still cost you a bit but that is entirely up to you.
i'd highly appreciate your inputs regarding the matter,guys. godbless us all!
hope that helps a bit. should there be any corrections or added infos, please quote in your next replies :) thanks
guys, i can "smell" lot of exploitation here. even if we only got low ielts score we can still read and comprehend that there are "double talk" in the guidelines. like "give entry to one other person that would be able to work full time". did not mention if it's included on the fees we paid (+- half a million). i don't think they are for free.
if we keep on supporting these schemes, we are just making it more difficult for filipino nurses to get in to australia. we really need badly to get in to australia, but australia needs us even more than we do.
use your "coconut guys" and read websites and fight against exploiters. our government should look into this.i'm so tired of reading disgusted qualified with experienced nurses fall into this scheme, when actually australia needs us. if this so called agency have an easy way, then why can't we do it. we are the ones with the qualification, not the agency. they only "help" in submitting our documents. and we pay a lot for that? are we that ignorant. so now we can be called "ignorant nurses". i pity our parents. god bless them.
i didn't get the double talk part...
anyway, the "give entry to one other person that would be able to work full time" only means that since you are a graduate nurse and you will be under a student visa, you will be able to have a parent/guardian to accompany you in australia that will be able to work full time which in turn will help support you financially.
- this is how i interpreted it anyway but i might be wrong too.
actually, some agencies do make your life easier for a price, while some are just bogus. also, its not just about submitting documents, but some of them help you from start to finish - including review materials, tutorials, visa help, and most importantly employment. i have to agree though that the fees are rising too much.
as for sawsee, i think they are using a migration agent's help that is why it costs a lot for that fee alone plus the aged care course fees i think. the fees they require would really go to the course and the agents and not to the agency itself - this is according to them. but, this doesn't mean that it is okay, double check always the breakdown of fees so that you know where your money is going.
all i can say is, if one is considering an agency's help, make sure you research as much as you can about the services they are providing and the breakdown of fees to make sure you are not paying too much for little service.
Aelith, do you know anyone who went thru with Sawsee.. Wasn't there a member from this forum that went ahead with Sawsee last year? Anyword. Where did you get the information from. Its alot to absorb with the year just starting. I was a bit shock with the new fees since i originally thought it would just be less than half a million pesos.. Happy New Year..
“[color=#333333]sponsored employees may stay in australia for the length of the visa validity period – the visa does not expire when the sponsorship expires.”
questions:
1.what exactly does it mean for the employee when the visa sponsorship and nomination expires?
2.does this mean she’s no longer tied up with the employer who sponsored her and therefore can work for another hospital or perhaps leave aus and return home?
3.how is this different from the actual contract that the hospital will offer?
4.i previously asked about the possible time frame from application to licensure, how about from licensure to actual employment? average?
5.you said, “you might also be offered a place in the hospital where you will have your clinical placement if ever – this really depends but it can happen.”
i’m not sure i understood, can you expound a little more, please?
again, thanks, thanks, thanks for all the help and patience in answering my queries!:smilecoffeecup:
Aelith, do you know anyone who went thru with Sawsee.. Wasn't there a member from this forum that went ahead with Sawsee last year? Anyword. Where did you get the information from. Its alot to absorb with the year just starting. I was a bit shock with the new fees since i originally thought it would just be less than half a million pesos.. Happy New Year..
Hello :)
Sorry was sick and busy the past few days...
There this one lady who signed up with them last month or two ago.. I haven't heard anything from her since then..
Actually, Sawsee emailed me and I copied and posted it here. Some of my friends received it too.
If you want a cheaper alternative, ASNC is less than or equal to 300k as of now. The thing with sawsee is, you are going to pay for an Aged Care course which will really make your expenses higher than normal.
"[color=#333333]sponsored employees may stay in australia for the length of the visa validity period - the visa does not expire when the sponsorship expires."
questions:
1.what exactly does it mean for the employee when the visa sponsorship and nomination expires?
as far as i know, if the visa is still valid beyond the expiration date of the sponsorship then you can still stay in australia. but, from what i know, you will have to find another sponsor within 28 days after your sponsorship ceases or else you will have to leave australia.
excerpt:
employee obligations
the employee must notify the department of any change in their circumstances.
if the sponsor ceases the employee's employment, the employee must do one of the following:
find another employer who is willing to sponsor them and apply for another visa
apply for another type of substantive visa
leave australia within 28 days unless the employee's visa expires before that time, in which case the employee must leave australia prior to visa expiry.
2.does this mean she's no longer tied up with the employer who sponsored her and therefore can work for another hospital or perhaps leave aus and return home?
yes. you are no longer tied up with your former employer unless you renew your sponsorship with them. if you choose not to renew, then you would need to find another employer to sponsor you.
3.how is this different from the actual contract that the hospital will offer?
the employer is usually the hospital as far as i know so the contract usually is the same length as the sponsorship. although, in some cases the contract may be longer so the sponsorship may be renewed if ever.
4.i previously asked about the possible time frame from application to licensure, how about from licensure to actual employment? average?
this will depend on how soon or late you will be able to find a sponsor and how fast they are going to complete the nomination and sponsorship. the 457 visa processing might take more or less 2-3 months. but please bear in mind that this can be extended because of some problems you might encounter while processing the visa.
5.you said, "you might also be offered a place in the hospital where you will have your clinical placement if ever - this really depends but it can happen."
i'm not sure i understood, can you expound a little more, please?
if ever you failed the clinical component part in part a in the challenge test or when you choose to do the education modules, you will be asked to complete a 160-hours clinical placement in one hospital or aged care facility in queensland. usually, those who had their clinical placements were offered a job by the same facility when they finished their 160-hours placement.
again, thanks, thanks, thanks for all the help and patience in answering my queries!:smilecoffeecup:
you're welcome. the other members can add some more infos to my answers too. :wink2:
Hope your feeling better aelith. This thing with sawsee kinda got me depressed and plus with no way of contacting that other member..i feel like a stick stuck in mud. Any word on the others who just finished their 160 clinical hours.
Hope your feeling better aelith. This thing with sawsee kinda got me depressed and plus with no way of contacting that other member..i feel like a stick stuck in mud. Any word on the others who just finished their 160 clinical hours.
Thanks :) I hope so too.. but with this freezing temperature I doubt
Why be depressed? You've got other options :wink2: Yes, my friend who finished it is already working in Brisbane - he got an offer in the hospital where he had his clinical placement. The only difference is he has some experience.
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It is really quite a lot... I just got the email yesterday and was shocked as well.
About your second statement, yes, they do need nurses to fill in their staff, but they need to make sure the nurses filling in are competent enough that's why it takes so long. In reality, they really need experienced nurses more than anything else. Any immigration process is supposed to be difficult - it is actually quite easier in Australia compared to other countries. Nobody really is giving us a hard time, it's just our frustrations.
Hang on there... key to success is patience and perseverance