i can't seem to reach AHPRA thru phone, I really can't call them several times a day as I have work 8-5, I've emailed regarding my problem, but no reply yet..hmmm what to do what to do...
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they are really busy.. they cant even cater the immediate needs of license holder like me, how much more with applicants... they commit an error on my license expiry date, till now eh no reply yet from them,,.. one of the forumers tried to kol them, and then there was just a voice message something like "blah blah blah, please hold on (pero wala naman)...the number you dial is not yours...blah blah..".. i will try to kol next week.. will updat you guys if the line is already mine..
Let me just clarify my unprecedented post that surprisingly caused anxiety to many readers here. And I apologize for this anxiety. (Still, how can something so simple still be misunderstood? Or is it actually too complex for common sense?)
Let me cite some real life examples of people who bent the rules:
•A fresh graduate nurse with zero experience who just finished her BP applied for a nursing job in the rural requiring 2 years of hospital experience. Having no experience at all, she underwent paid training in the city prior to going to the bush
•A fresh graduate nurse from a province with zero experience got accepted in a leading tertiary teaching hospital
•A fresh graduate nurse with zero experience got accepted in VCHN requiring 1 year hospital experience and 3 mos medical surgical
•A fresh graduate nurse was accepted at a nursing home requiring 2 years experience
•A hospital that doesn’t accept intl nurses for their graduate nurse program still accepted a fresh graduate who applied
•A fresh graduate nurse with zero experience kick started her career in a specialty area
•A nurse with 4 years experience received a starting pay of level 6 RN salary
•Two nurses both with 2 years experience. The other nurse received a level 1 salary. The other received a level 2
•I know of a nurse who graduated from the Philippines who was exempted from bp because of her “excellent experience”
•A hospital that doesn’t accept 2nd coursers still accepted a 2nd courser who applied
•A fellow forumer we all know who’s in his 40s got accepted in aged care despite being a 3rd courser
And my list can go on and on and on and on
The "rules" terdjay was referring to primarily is not about the rules of the board but the rules of bridging course providers and/or employers specifically in terms of post graduate experience. Terdjay was merely encouraging other Filipinos who are reluctant, weary, and wary in getting registration in Australia because of the uncertainty in finding employment afterwards because the "general rule" now is that Australia will most likely hire experienced nurses. There are exceptions to this rule, hence the phrase "bending the rules." The general rule also for most Bridging course providers is that they accept or prefer experienced nurses, but again there are exceptions. I guess we do need more people in this world who can analyse at this level. Knock knock brain. It’s me. Your owner.
But with all due respects, I do not buy it. If Terd..jay has a score over 7 in IELTS in english, then we are talking the same language. I have no intention of revealing or bragging about my IELTS score. But I’m among those fortunate enough to pass it in one shot despite having no preparation and training. And my scores exceeded my expectations. In my own opinion, IELTS should be a lot more difficult. I won’t be surprised if an elementary student got 7 in all bands. It’s not the IELTS that is the problem. It’s your own fear/anxiety that’s your enemy. Same with the board exam. The Phil BON should adopt the NCLEX type of question formation so that the Filipinos can somehow exercise (more) their analytical skills.
Will I be going to jail by bending the rules? Will I get pricked by the tip of the triangle inside the circle? Sorry, but whatever happens I will really be bending the rules and it’s up to you if you want to follow in my footsteps.
“Wisest is he who knows that he does not know." I agree.
Pathetic is he who does not even know how to know. Or worse, what the hell know means.
i feel hopeless. i only have volunteer experience. huhu. what would happen to my application? is it possible i get accepted?
if you are referring to your AHPRA application, then there's nothing much to worry about such experience as explained in the previous posts in prior pages...
if you are referring to the experience requirement of the BP school, i guess you better ask the other forumers about this matter..
if you are referring to the experience requirement of employers, well, that is flexible and will depend on the
lenght of your volunteer experience and how you present and explain it to them (this matter i will go through in the coming days when i send my job application)...
good luck, and just shoot your questions specifically so that we could give specific answers too..
anyone here who reached manager level in their career at a young age?
I really can't help not answering this question. I know someone who was promoted as manager at a young age of 22. But she's not a nurse or working in the health profession. Her fellow managers are in their 30s and 40s. And she was my former boss. It's been a pleasure working with her and she's an aussie.
i assume you are also a doctor. being a doctor at the same time is helpful in the sense that it may equip the practioner with better physical assessment skills which in turn is important in nursing . however, it may also disadvantage the person when working as a nurse and because of being an MD, the person might perform things that are essentially good but outside the scope of nursing practice. this has happened not only in australia but also in the USA which resulted to some form of liability and loss of RN license. if you know your scope of practice and operate only within that scope, there will never be a problem.
if what you mean is if by being an MD helpful in obtaining an RN license in lieu of nursing experience, i think it is not. when obtaining a license to practise as a nurse, you must meet the essential standards established by ahpra-nmba, MD education is not considered Nursing education and MD work experience is also not considered RN experience.
if you are an md, there is also another pathway to work in australia as an md. MDs are in high demand especially in the regional and rural areas. although you still need to meet the essential requirements set by ahpra-mba (medical board of australia). registration details for international MDs can also be accessed through the ahpra website.
although there is no restriction in being registered in both professions here in Oz, on the practical side you only need to choose one. whether you choose md or rn pathway, it is still expected to cost you a lot of money. you still need ielts, and pass exams. for md, the first round of exams will cost you more than 2k aud, and the clinical component will cost you more than 4k. if you are smart and have access to australian medical practice principles ( the diseases and treatments are basically the same but the way of doing things really differ), it is possible to pass the exams in just one take. so you are expected to spend approximately 7k. in contrast to BP for OS nurses, the cheapest now is around 10k.
if you are a medical specialist already, there is yet another pathway. but that would be another story... good luck
Hi, which do you think would be a more possible-to-work route? Because I have friends who tried the AMC route, and didn't make it. And they're not really stupid ones. They said it's really hard nowadays to go to Australia as a doctor.
Let me just clarify my unprecedented post that surprisingly caused anxiety to many readers here. And I apologize for this anxiety. (Still, how can something so simple still be misunderstood? Or is it actually too complex for common sense?)
Let me cite some real life examples of people who bent the rules:
*A fresh graduate nurse with zero experience who just finished her BP applied for a nursing job in the rural requiring 2 years of hospital experience. Having no experience at all, she underwent paid training in the city prior to going to the bush
*A fresh graduate nurse from a province with zero experience got accepted in a leading tertiary teaching hospital
*A fresh graduate nurse with zero experience got accepted in VCHN requiring 1 year hospital experience and 3 mos medical surgical
*A fresh graduate nurse was accepted at a nursing home requiring 2 years experience
*A hospital that doesn't accept intl nurses for their graduate nurse program still accepted a fresh graduate who applied
*A fresh graduate nurse with zero experience kick started her career in a specialty area
*A nurse with 4 years experience received a starting pay of level 6 RN salary
*Two nurses both with 2 years experience. The other nurse received a level 1 salary. The other received a level 2
*I know of a nurse who graduated from the Philippines who was exempted from bp because of her "excellent experience"
*A hospital that doesn't accept 2nd coursers still accepted a 2nd courser who applied
*A fellow forumer we all know who's in his 40s got accepted in aged care despite being a 3rd courser
And my list can go on and on and on and on
The "rules" terdjay was referring to primarily is not about the rules of the board but the rules of bridging course providers and/or employers specifically in terms of post graduate experience. Terdjay was merely encouraging other Filipinos who are reluctant, weary, and wary in getting registration in Australia because of the uncertainty in finding employment afterwards because the "general rule" now is that Australia will most likely hire experienced nurses. There are exceptions to this rule, hence the phrase "bending the rules." The general rule also for most Bridging course providers is that they accept or prefer experienced nurses, but again there are exceptions. I guess we do need more people in this world who can analyse at this level. Knock knock brain. It's me. Your owner.
But with all due respects, I do not buy it. If Terd..jay has a score over 7 in IELTS in english, then we are talking the same language. I have no intention of revealing or bragging about my IELTS score. But I'm among those fortunate enough to pass it in one shot despite having no preparation and training. And my scores exceeded my expectations. In my own opinion, IELTS should be a lot more difficult. I won't be surprised if an elementary student got 7 in all bands. It's not the IELTS that is the problem. It's your own fear/anxiety that's your enemy. Same with the board exam. The Phil BON should adopt the NCLEX type of question formation so that the Filipinos can somehow exercise (more) their analytical skills.
Will I be going to jail by bending the rules? Will I get pricked by the tip of the triangle inside the circle? Sorry, but whatever happens I will really be bending the rules and it's up to you if you want to follow in my footsteps.
"Wisest is he who knows that he does not know." I agree.
Pathetic is he who does not even know how to know. Or worse, what the hell know means.
Well then, lots of stories have been told then......rules are rules, what you are talking about is that some criteria is not set in concrete!! that is not 'bending the rules'. and them getting away with it was then not now.
If you are so sure cocky about yourself and feel you have the gift of the gab with your high english scores, that you used incorrectly, you should be able to fleece as much money out of the system as poss. Hope no-one suffers, goodbye.
OMG! I really miss this thread. My last log in was last yr when I was still in Phils. Now, iys been 8 months since I went here in OZ and struggling to be OZ RN, though I chose to study again for 2yrs via student visa.
Im really glad to still see very familiar people here like cioman, your such a true mate this thread helped me so much in choosing my pathway... Although its not that easy, you really have to way things out and give it a try.
Goodluck to all Fellow Filipino Nurses who wants to be RN in OZ. We have the same goals and its just a matter of making that GOAL into REALITY
and for those who did, do you have to have 2 years of paid experience?
I am currently applying for mercy health:) when i called the person in charge she told me that they do not require experience but it gives you an edge over the other applicants. Its worth a shot though
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i feel hopeless. i only have volunteer experience. huhu. what would happen to my application? is it possible i get accepted?