to aelith. ive been keeping up track with your posts from the very first page, and also in another australian forum where i also found your name. i must say, you're quite a nice young lady, offering us all the infos we need. i've been jotting down notes since then. i'm also planning to study in australia and like you, im out of the phil at the moment. im still weighing the pros and cons as i also have no work experience regarding "nursing" because i'm working in a different field right now. i must say, all your posts have kept me well informed and i just want to say my thanks for being so patient with everyone here. thanx aelith
as for the many filipinos out there, persevere in your dreams and don't give up. there has been a huge influx of nurses and i know we're all in tight boats right now but one day, we might look back and say, "it was tough, but i made it."
to aelith. ive been keeping up track with your posts from the very first page, and also in another australian forum where i also found your name. i must say, you're quite a nice young lady, offering us all the infos we need. i've been jotting down notes since then. i'm also planning to study in australia and like you, im out of the phil at the moment. im still weighing the pros and cons as i also have no work experience regarding "nursing" because i'm working in a different field right now. i must say, all your posts have kept me well informed and i just want to say my thanks for being so patient with everyone here. thanx aelith
as for the many Filipinos out there, persevere in your dreams and don't give up. there has been a huge influx of nurses and i know we're all in tight boats right now but one day, we might look back and say, "it was tough, but i made it."
Thank you for the kind words. :wink2: Based on your description of your current status, we seem to be in the same situation from different job field, zero experience to studying. I'm glad that I was able to help you and you are free to ask me questions as well. This is the least I can do for those back home, at least the only help I think I can give. If you need some more information, I can also keep in touch with you outside the forum should you need more in-depth assistance. :wink2:
The last thing you said is very true. That is all we can do anyway, to win the battle we have at the moment regarding the unemployment of so many nurses at home. With enough perseverance and patience, we will make it through.
I want to share something and maybe it can help others too. This is based on my own opinion only so I hope it won't send any wrong signals or messages to others. These are my thoughts only. :)
Another thing I learned a few years ago, ever since I graduated was, I can't really be too picky about work as anything I can get "at the moment" is good enough as long as it can suffice my needs - financially and career wise. That is all that matters anyway, most especially the financial needs. I didn't want to work as an aged care RN because the system is a bit weird; sometimes you will be doing responsibilities of aids and vice versa which should not be how it should be anyway. Then later I realized, if I really do want to reach my goals and considering the current situation most nurses face, working as an RN in a home care facility in a rural area is better than waiting for years for a good offer to come along just so I can satisfy my luxurious (exaggerating only but more of satisfying my comfort standards) needs. I am inexperienced, but, I thought I have the same rights as any other nurse - inexperienced or experienced, to get a good job in a good place but that is not how it is in the real world. Those with experience get the good ones in the best areas and more often than not, the inexperienced ones always have to start in a far flung area in a district hospital or aged care facility. On rare occasions though, if you are lucky enough, some inexperienced ones get the same jobs as those with experience - but this is uncommon. With that in my mind, I began to see more and more opportunities for me as I have literally lowered my "standards" but not to the point that it will be largely to my disadvantage. However, I always make sure that I will be getting a decent compensation too (enough to pay bills and put food on the table). The things I would really study thoroughly and clarify would be the contracts, your benefits and all other hidden fees (if there's any). Those are the 3 most important things for me, at least. And it is good to have a research on the current "national rate" or "normal rate" as you can be offered a "you-thought-was-a-good-salary" but really is a lousy one. Take note also of the penalty rates(bonus rates/differential pay for night, afternoon and holidays), normal weekly hours (38 hrs) or fortnightly hours (76 hrs), overtime pay, allowances, and all other benefits including superannuation rate and leaves.
Basically in the end, it will all come down to our own preferences and needs. I cannot force anyone to do what I do or to agree to what I think because to each his own. What may be "enough" for me may not be "enough" for others. We all have different situations with a few similarities, mainly the goal of getting a good job that pays well or enough. And so, I hope with the information I am able to share and probably some opinions too, everyone or at least most will be able to make a wise decision for themselves. :wink2: Remember, you will always get positive and negative hear-says or opinions, but all that will help you in the end. Just don't be too disheartened by the negatives ones, they are just there to make sure you know the downside of it. After all, there is really no such thing as an absolutely positive pathway.
Thanks Kit and Aelith, its just so hard to come up with a decision and with you guys here its a blessing of sorts to provide information about what to expect if ever we come to a decision..
thank you for answering all of my questions aelith! Do you mind sharing what path you're going to take? i'm just curious.
You're welcome. :)
Uhm... it may seem funny but I'm still undecided lol. Like everyone else, I can't make a final decision yet. Although, there is a good chance I'll be studying the Master's in USyd. I've applied to that one just so I have something done at the moment. It's only 100 AUD for the application so it wouldn't hurt much. I can accept the offer anytime I want anyway since I have until October of next year to decide for that one lol. :chuckle Fact is, there is another deciding factor that I need to consider. And that factor alone limits me to stay in the Metropolitan areas only. I am okay though with the "Aged Care RN in Rural/Country area" option. But due to my personal deciding factor, I can't just go with that one YET. Since the agency told me they can relocate me to the metro area after 1 year of experience in the Country side, I might still consider that option. One Year would be fast anyway so it's not really a big deal. The penalty fee, should you resign from work and not finish the contract, is not that high compared to that of the US contracts at the very least.
Thing is, I would really rather study for one year to refresh my knowledge and skills as it has been a long time since I graduated. But that one year will not lead to PR so it's useless. For me, it is just comparable to a bridging program and bridging program will be cheaper so for me there's no point. Unless of course I will apply for another visa which will let me stay and be a permanent resident in Australia after some time. If that's the case, I'd rather study the 1 year course. The agency thing is okay with me too just because I'll be saving the money I'll be spending for Uni. University plus living expenses alone will cost a lot and the Agency's fees is like 10% only of the total of studying in Australia. Ive got 3 options and its just so hard to decide especially when I don't want to waste any more time. But the weighing part is a grueling process and really really time consuming. I've been trying to decide since July 2008 LOL.
After your module or your exam you can have your medicals from the australian embassy. That would take about a month.You can have your medicals as early as now because medicals will be valid for a year even without lodging your application for a visa. Apply for a short stay visa temporary valid for 3 months in Australia. After doing Part B for a day or a month for the clinical and gaining your registration then you can apply for long stay visa through your employer. That's a change of visa. While processing your application, the embassy will give you a bridging visa wherein you have to wait for approval of your work permit.
Thank you.. it's good to know that "medical results" are valid pala for 1 year for visa application purposes, i didn't know this till now as you said.. Nonetheless, i would still pray that within 3 months after passing the Part A Written test, i hope and should be able to get my australian visa in order to take the Part B Test in australia, otherwise my Part A test result will be forfeited.. Tsk tsk tsk, hope things will go as scheduled..
Thank you.. it's good to know that "medical results" are valid pala for 1 year for visa application purposes, i didn't know this till now as you said.. Nonetheless, i would still pray that within 3 months after passing the Part A Written test, i hope and should be able to get my australian visa in order to take the Part B Test in australia, otherwise my Part A test result will be forfeited.. Tsk tsk tsk, hope things will go as scheduled..
Just a question, if you dont mind. :) Are you going to apply on your own? If so, you can maybe start looking at the requirements for the visa so you can prepare it ahead of time. At least you can apply as soon as you're done with part a.
btw, how to get a "penal clearance" from a certain country where you used to work is legitimate question as discussed in the previous page.. imagine, if you had worked in KSA or UK, and you are presently here in the phils., so how can you obtain such document? a legitimate question, ryt.
Just a question, if you dont mind. :) Are you going to apply on your own? If so, you can maybe start looking at the requirements for the visa so you can prepare it ahead of time. At least you can apply as soon as you're done with part a.
hi aelith, yes i'm all alone at night for this endeavour..:wink2: anyways, my concern is still it: from the day of visa application at embassy (assuming all documents are complete), how long will my visa be released, i still hope it will be released less than 3 months or prior the "expiry of Part Test A" so to speak... :) as if naman, i would pass Part A Test, hehehe..
btw, how to get a "penal clearance" from a certain country where you used to work is legitimate question as discussed in the previous page.. imagine, if you had worked in KSA or UK, and you are presently here in the phils., so how can you obtain such document? a legitimate question, ryt.
Uhm what do mean by this though? I mean the legitimate part hehe.
Anyway, I'll try to answer your question as I have understood it. If you have lived in another country for more than 12 months for the last 10 years prior to lodging you application, and now currently residing in a different area, just like your example, you can contact their department in-charge for the penal clearances and inquire how to get it. That is the only way I think. As far as I know there is a list for that in the immigration website of Australia. I just have to go look for it again. If I do find it, I'll just post here the link. But anyway, you can also have your own research if ever.
Hope that was the answer you are looking for. Hehe. I'll update everyone regarding this topic later on.
hi aelith, yes i'm all alone at night for this endeavour..:wink2: anyways, my concern is still it: from the day of visa application at embassy (assuming all documents are complete), how long will my visa be released, i still hope it will be released less than 3 months or prior the "expiry of Part Test A" so to speak... :) as if naman, i would pass Part A Test, hehehe..
Well, you have to believe in yourself that you can pass. Else, how can you pass it if you think you would fail. :)
As for the processing, it should be done within 3 months, especially when your documents are complete and if there won't be any problems. I know this is not what you want to hear but, it will really depend on your case and if luck is on your side at the time. hehe. Pray hard. :)
Uhm what do mean by this though? I mean the legitimate part hehe.
Anyway, I'll try to answer your question as I have understood it. If you have lived in another country for more than 12 months for the last 10 years prior to lodging you application, and now currently residing in a different area, just like your example, you can contact their department in-charge for the penal clearances and inquire how to get it. That is the only way I think. As far as I know there is a list for that in the immigration website of Australia. I just have to go look for it again. If I do find it, I'll just post here the link. But anyway, you can also have your own research if ever.
Hope that was the answer you are looking for. Hehe. I'll update everyone regarding this topic later on.
:wink2: you got it right, specifically how/where to get that document.. anyway, just like you and others, we continuously research, but sometimes we are on a dead end, and that's the time we need super-aelith to save the day.. :wink2: thanks as always...
I am okay though with the "Aged Care RN in Rural/Country area" option. But due to my personal deciding factor, I can't just go with that one YET. Since the agency told me they can relocate me to the metro area after 1 year of experience in the Country side, I might still consider that option. One Year would be fast anyway so it's not really a big deal. The penalty fee, should you resign from work and not finish the contract, is not that high compared to that of the US contracts at the very least. 
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to aelith. ive been keeping up track with your posts from the very first page, and also in another australian forum where i also found your name. i must say, you're quite a nice young lady, offering us all the infos we need. i've been jotting down notes since then. i'm also planning to study in australia and like you, im out of the phil at the moment. im still weighing the pros and cons as i also have no work experience regarding "nursing" because i'm working in a different field right now. i must say, all your posts have kept me well informed and i just want to say my thanks for being so patient with everyone here. thanx aelith
as for the many filipinos out there, persevere in your dreams and don't give up. there has been a huge influx of nurses and i know we're all in tight boats right now but one day, we might look back and say, "it was tough, but i made it."