New Excelsior Limitations

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Has anyone seen the new limitations? Guess I will have to "enroll" before that date since all my non-nursing classes are transferred in. This really makes me angry because the college I'm at won't be offering A&P II until October!

http://www.excelsior.edu/school-of-nursing-limits-credit-acceptance

BTW, almost every nursing school goes through changes, many times without notice. thats just NURSING SCHOOL in general. at least EC was nice enough to give everyone a deadline of the new changes.

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Maybe by "real" she meant "brick and mortar." I'm an optimist. ;)

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keep this in mind, there is a reason certain states do not accept excelsior as an approved program. unless excelsior is your only option i strongly recommend attending a real college. not trying to put down anyone's plan just saying that there really is a good reason why it isn't accepted everywhere.

Real? I graduated from EC over 20 yrs ago. I have a real RN license and I'm a real charge nurse too. I didn't feel I needed a brick and morter school, after working as an LPN for 4 yrs to be a real nurse.

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Yes at least they have a decent deadline before the new requirements take place.

As far a a "real" school "real" schools even go through problems (accreditation) sometimes. The last school I went to (before moving to Germany) had always been a prestigious nursing school. As of their last visit they are now under provisional approval. Also I don't understand your reasoning. The amount of states that accept the program (outright with no other requirements needed 36-14) is pretty good. Many states are starting to realize that online schools provide just as good of an education as "brick and mortar schools".

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I'm still a little confused on what the new changes mean... they are putting a limit on how many credits you can transfer in from different schools?

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Wow that's pretty nervy to come on to the Excelsior college website and say that it isn't a real school. If you aren't considering Excelsior, why are you lurking on this page? I graduated from Excelsior and guess what - I am a REAL nurse with a REAL job that I absolutely love!!

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Basically they are putting a limit on ACE approved classes like if you take info lit from penn foster or intermediate algebra from ALEKS. they are ACE approved. They said if you CLEP or use DANTES they will not limit the amount of classes you can transfer. If I were in this situation I would take as many classes as I can take at a local community college and EC. I would take info lit with penn foster since its only 1 ACE approved credit and intermedia algebra through ALEKS to satisfy the math requirement if I needed because that's 3 ACE approved credits.

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do you know if you are able to enroll if you are still working on your lpn? i graduate in december and i wonder if i could sign up before hand so i don't have to take extra classes, and i can transfer in as much as i want?

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do you know if you are able to enroll if you are still working on your lpn? i graduate in december and i wonder if i could sign up before hand so i don't have to take extra classes, and i can transfer in as much as i want?

I'm sorry, by no. The main admissions requirement for the entry level ASN program for initial license eligibility is a current, active US LPN, EMT-P (paramedic), or CRRT/RRT (respiratory therapist) license. However if you take your pre-requisites at a traditional school (whether online or in person) at a community college or test out (CLEP) of the courses you will it be affected by the upcoming ACE credit restriction.

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do you know if you are able to enroll if you are still working on your lpn? i graduate in december and i wonder if i could sign up before hand so i don't have to take extra classes, and i can transfer in as much as i want?

If you look at the application you will see that you are required to provide your license information, if not a copy of the license itself.

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For the "real" college comment...

Excelsior is a "real" college that is regionally accredited by Middle States Commission on Higher Education, which is a unit of the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools and is recognized by the US Department of Education. This is the same regional accreditation body for "real" colleges/universities in mid-Atlantic states, including New York (home of Excelsior). Regional accreditation is not easy... my father used to serve on the Western Association of Schools and Colleges team (California, etc.) and wow, can they be nit-picky!

In addition, Excelsior's nursing program is accredited by the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC).

I'm not a salesman for Excelsior, but the accreditation issues were very important to me when I looked into pursuing my education. The excuse given by California for not accepting Excelsior graduates is in regards to the clinical hours component, and that's a long discussion in itself. I have no intentions of ever returning to California except to visit family.

As for the transfer limitations of ACE, etc., I simply see that as Excelsior falling in line with the rules and acceptance policies that other accredited colleges and universities have in place. My daughter is going to college now and she was limited to transferring 15 "unit equivalents" of her CLEP exams (5 exams, basically). While not pleasant, I can understand Excelsior putting these policies in place in order to maintain a comparable level of academic expectations to other colleges and universities. They cannot risk their accreditation and academic integrity, and I'm sure they are scrutinized under a microscope because of their non-traditional education.

Just my penny's worth... or more ;)

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Just like any other educational program, what you get out of Excelsior's nursing program is directly proportional to what you put into it. I find it hard to believe that I'd be a better nurse if I went to a traditional brick and mortar school. There are plenty of incompetant nurses that went the traditional route. Don't let these haters discourgage you! Some of these people BELONG in a traditional nursing school!

As far as the changes: As long as you enroll before October, you should not be affected.

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