Published May 20, 2013
atom2013
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I went to Middle School and High School in California. I also had a one semester in College there. Eventually, I decided to move back to Philippines and finish my college. Obviously, I took up nursing.
I just graduated last April 2013 in the Philippines. I am a dual citizen - US and PHL. I've read and heard about the new law in Nevada wherein local license is required. Since I am a fresh a BSN graduate, I do not have a local license yet but I have no plan on taking the PNLE.
However, I still decided to apply in Nevada. I already started my CGFNS and planning to take TOEFL exam asap. I also passed my application papers then received my fingerprinting forms few days after.
My brother, a US citizen, took his NCLEX right after his graduation and passed it first time in California. As far as I remember it was during 2009 so he was lucky that he did not go to the strict and harder application process nowadays especially in California.
He suggested that I still should try in Nevada despite of the new law as do the same thing he did when he applied in California. Wherein, when the BON looks or/and asks for your license, the best way is to send them a letter explaining that you do not plan to work there (PHL) and you are a US citizen. By the way, I have two brothers who have done this and it worked.
The Nevada BON sent another letter to me saying that they are waiting for my CGFNS and TOEFL results. So far, I am going with the flow and plan to give it a shot.
Any suggestions?
Do you think that I'm doing the right thing or wasting my time and money as well? Feel free to comment. Thanks.
steppybay
1,882 Posts
The ballgame has changed since Nov. 2011, when the stricter concurrency enforcement went into effect, it will not be the same as years past.
Yes, the local PH license is a 2013 requirement, also know that NV has recently started to enforce the concurrency rules and it's been in their policy for decades like CA. There are at least 13-14 other states as well, with OR at this present time as being the only far western state not enforcing the concurrency. You can get any other out of state license but to endorse it back into CA only means you will have to get your college transcripts reviewed again and most likely be rejected (concurrency).
You can try to write a letter to the NV BON that as a USC or dual-C you can't take the local PH exam and if they accept that excuse, then you're lucky, if not, then, it is what it is. As most BON's knows as a USC or dual-C is not "always" possible to take the local nursing exam, but they also see how many have taken it as they got thru the local PH application.
As it turns out, many states either do need proof or could adapt that requirement in the near future as the rise of international applicants are rising and the influx of false documentation being submitted for reqview and it's easier for a USA BON's to verify the PH license number and names since it's another 3rd independent agency to confirm a real license and not one that was "purchased" from the streets of the Phils. So it does make better sense to have the local PH license. Good luck!
@steppybay I do not plan to apply/endorse in California although I grew up there. I need to move on. Plus, I do not want to waste money and time waiting for so long then get denied in the end. I believe California is the hardest and strictest state bon since it is flooded with international applicants and some falsified their documents which negatively affect all innocent applicants who put their hardwork finishing and studying for 4 years, and that includes me.
My hope is my letter that I will mail them in case they look or ask my local license. I hope they will consider me if ever. Also, I do not plan to take the PNLE since I do not want to work there. I just need to go with the flow for now and do what I can which is to finish my CGFNS process and pass the TOEFL exam.
However, I need a back-up plan. Any suggestions? What is the better state to apply? I want to apply wherein I have relatives and here is my list of states - NY, NJ, Masachussets, Oklahoma and Texas? Which one of these do you think is the best option? Thanks.
@steppybay I do not plan to apply/endorse in California although I grew up there. I need to move on. Plus, I do not want to waste money and time waiting for so long then get denied in the end. I believe California is the hardest and strictest state bon since it is flooded with international applicants and some falsified their documents which negatively affect all innocent applicants who put their hardwork finishing and studying for 4 years, and that includes me. My hope is my letter that I will mail them in case they look or ask my local license. I hope they will consider me if ever. Also, I do not plan to take the PNLE since I do not want to work there. I just need to go with the flow for now and do what I can which is to finish my CGFNS process and pass the TOEFL exam. However, I need a back-up plan. Any suggestions? What is the better state to apply? I want to apply wherein I have relatives and here is my list of states - NY, NJ, Masachussets, Oklahoma and Texas? Which one of these do you think is the best option? Thanks.
Well, it seems like you have pretty much written off working and practicing in your home state of CA, knowing the factors that could reject your application in CA. BUT if they do accept your letter of explanation, then the next step is to see if you will be denied due to the concurrency and if so, then here's what a few have done to still get the ATT in CA if you wish to stay in CA, see below.
Click and read here: https://allnurses.com/world-nursing/received-att-california-832461.html
If you don't want to do what they did to work in CA, then, the question you need to ask yourself is out of the states you mentioned, which of those is the number one choice that upon passing the NCLEX-RN exam, you will stay for several years as a practicing RN.
As many kababayans go to get their RN license in one state (that's not their preferred choice, but rather easier or cheaper or faster to get a license), then either immediately or within a couple of years, go to endorse into the first desired state, only to find they must do all the testings and exams (that they were trying to "avoid" in the first place) and pay more fees, as they now find themselves going backwards temporarily to meet that first desired state's BON requirements, then they all start to whine and complain about the wasted time and spending more money, when they were the ones who are to blame.
Don't make the same mistakes they have made, but you'll read time and time again in these forums of so many going from state to state, going full circle, when they should have simply concentrated all their efforts with the number 1 desired state in the very first place. The caveat is that of trying states with the concurrency enforcement, which makes the desired state a not the state to go to, unless you get the deficient courses taken care of like the ones who do so in the link given and then, the concurrency issue is behind you AND the states with the required local PH license will accept your reason for not taking the local nursing exam from the Phils.
@[COLOR=#003366]steppybay Thank you so much for your very helpful info. I think I need to finish what I started and do what I can do for now. Your suggestions are noted. I'll update again on my Nevada application process once I got any notifications or/and communications from them. Good luck to us all.
theycallmethin
12 Posts
you were allowed by the Nevada to apply for them? they have this january 2013 law that all International graduates must have a local liscence. I was supposed to apply for Nevada but when I called them up they told me they needed the local lisc. where you graduated. Im also Dual Cit.
dclcnur
39 Posts
Hello Atom,
I think there's no harm in trying what you're planning. However I did read a letter that a batchmate of mine was forwarded by CGFNS. It was sent by Nevada BON to CGFNS. She applied to Nevada before the rules were effective so she was allowed to have her application processed without the Philippine license. But then she found out about the TOEFL requirements and decided not to pursue licensure in Nevada.
Here's a portion of that letter:
"All brand new candidates who are applying to CGFNS and Nevada after January 1,2013 will not be eligible without country of education licensure ."
I myself just finished sending my application to CA BON. I am a DUAL C so I was able to take the NLE. I'm currently licensed in the Philippines.
Despite what I know surrounding the low success rates in getting an eligibility in California, I still wanted to put in my application so that I will know the outcome. I believe my transcripts are concurrent. I graduated last October 2012 but just now starting to process my applications to two different BONs. I just sent over some transcript requests to my school.
I suggest calling Nevada BON personally so that you can speak to someone and ask regarding licensure in the Philippines.
Good luck,
-E
theycallmethin I applied in Nevada last April and few days later they sent me my fingerprinting forms. Then, they sent another letter saying that they are waiting for my cgfns and toefl exam results. Cgfns already received my papers/requirements and I'm now waiting for their approval. I plan to take my toefl exam on June.
Once I gave what they asked for - cgfns & toefl and if they ever look for my local license, I will try to send a letter explaining that I am already a US citizen and I do not have any plan taking the local board exam as I do not want to work here in the Philippines. This is what my brothers did and it worked. Hopefully, mine too.
I graduated in the Philippines last month. What about you?
dclcnur Why did your friend not continue her application in Nevada? Is the toefl exam hard? I plan to take mine on June. So what did your friend do then? Did she just waste her money on her Nevada application and what state is she trying to apply now?
You took the December pnle? I wanted to apply in California but I do not have a local license. Plus, it is the hardest and strictest state bon. So I'm taking a risk on Nevada as I may have a higher chance to get ATT.
dclcnur Why did your friend not continue her application in Nevada? Is the toefl exam hard? I plan to take mine on June. So what did your friend do then? Did she just waste her money on her Nevada application and what state is she trying to apply now? You took the December pnle? I wanted to apply in California but I do not have a local license. Plus, it is the hardest and strictest state bon. So I'm taking a risk on Nevada as I may have a higher chance to get ATT.
She thought it might be difficult based on her friends' outcome. Personally, I think a lot of people are just intimidated like she was. I don't think her friends passed.
Yup, probably wasted her money. She applied to NY BON.
Yes, I took the December 2012 PNLE. Then I bummed around for a while and now scrambling to process my applications. I should have done it while I was in Manila. I could have taken cared of my PRC requirements myself for CGFNS instead of asking favors in Manila.
dclcnur Oh I see. Wow, I heard the speaking part in the TOEFL exam was nerve wracking. Hmm... I need to be more prepared. Do you have any updates about her application in NY? Does she have a local license? I'm thinking New York as my back up plan if ever I got denied in NV, hopefully not though.
Yeah, I'm still here and want everything to be settled first before I go back to US. Plus, there is an NCLEX exam test center here in Makati so if ever I decide to take the exam here.
atom2013 I don't know anything about IELTS or TOEFL and I'm not interested. :) Hopefully I don't ever need it for Oregon.
No, she's not licensed in the Philippines. She's still waiting for her eligibility from NY.
You're lucky that you're still there to take care of your requirements for CGFNS. I wasted my time traveling and partying while I was there.
You should have taken the board since you're still there. It's really one less thing to worry about. And if you're a Dual C, then you wouldn't have any problems registering for the PNLE.