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As nurses why do you guys think that medications only treat the symptoms of a disease instead of curing the disease? Is it because no one has come up any cures yet? (:rolleyes:) Or do you guys think it's a conspiracy?

I for one think it's a conspiracy and that's what I'm writing a paper on. Just wanted to know how you all felt. Thanks.

Side note: OMG just noticed I put "and" instead of "an" in my title. Disregard Please!

Specializes in Nursing burnout retreat CE teacher, etc..

It gives me hope that someone in nursing school is asking this question and researching it.

Big Pharma.....It is a conspiracy of greed and big profits.

It is not about really about helping people.

It just can't be good for people to be taking 20-30 meds a day. I saw this all the time as a home health nurse, half of my initial visit time was spent just recording an accurate med list.

Penicillin was a great discovery, but it now pretty powerless against many bacteria.

Why are prescription medications allowed to be advertised on television, as a huge expense that is passed down in the cost of the drugs? It must pay off some how.

Here are two interesting articles to read about the drug industry.

Dana Ullman: Lies, Damn Lies and Medical Research

and Dana Ullman: Unplugging From Your Medicine Cabinet: Respecting the Body's Intelligence

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Well, a conspiracy... you may say so. For me it's like take a look at other countries (many sites in English on the net). For example, I have ulcerative colitis, noncurable per most of the GIs I have seen in the states, and I will always be on meds. When I went home to Germany, the first question was on my stress level, then on my diet. In Europe, many countries consider ulcerative colitis a disability and many patients are placed on bedrest when they become acute as it seems to be linked to increased stress level. In Germany, patient may go to a rehab/spa like facility, where they learn stress management techniques and dietary changes that may influence this disease. The healthcare management is mainly preventive, so that people do not get as sick and do not need to use meds. My brother has the same disease, actually, he went to the hospital with bloody diarrhea, weighing 98 pounds (he is 6 feet) and was immediately placed in the ICU. When I saw him about a year after this flareup, he was completely off meds and was doing very well, just did a lot of exercise and stress management. He did not even change much of his diet. What I'm trying to say is that, in the US, meds are an extremely lucrative business (same meds cost in other countries 1/3), and thus, manipulation of the healthcare industry to adopt a high med/low preventative approach is quite likely.

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And you know what? Most of these drugs have worse side effects than the disease.

Sometimes they do, and sometimes the option available does not even make it worth forgoing the medications.Just depends.

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Specializes in Oncology.
It gives me hope that someone in nursing school is asking this question and researching it.

Big Pharma.....It is a conspiracy of greed and big profits.

It is not about really about helping people.

It just can't be good for people to be taking 20-30 meds a day. I saw this all the time as a home health nurse, half of my initial visit time was spent just recording an accurate med list.

Penicillin was a great discovery, but it now pretty powerless against many bacteria.

Why are prescription medications allowed to be advertised on television, as a huge expense that is passed down in the cost of the drugs? It must pay off some how.

Here are two interesting articles to read about the drug industry.

Dana Ullman: Lies, Damn Lies and Medical Research

and Dana Ullman: Unplugging From Your Medicine Cabinet: Respecting the Body's Intelligence

Sorry, I have a hard time accepting an article where someone who's only qualifications are "Expert on homeopathic medicine" tells people to take a holiday from their medications, as they may become addicted to them. ***** What if someone post transplant reads that and decides to stop their anti-rejection meds to "give [their] body an opportunity to manifest its everyday self-regulating and self-healing propensities without the crutch of a pharmaceutical agent inhibiting or suppressing its important work." Who the heck is he to tell anyone who reads his column that they should take a vacation from their pharmaceuticals to "learn whether [they] really need to continue taking this drug or not." Please, patients, leave that up to discussion between you and your doctor and a pharmacist.

This is one of the biggest crocks I've read. I agree that some people are on too many medications, but that does not mean they should just stop taking them all.

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Specializes in ER.

I read the WHOLE thing (burp!)

Post 71 and 106 make sense to me. I don't think there is a conspiracy. That would take people actively making decisions to make things worse. I think they ignore the non money making ideas and favor things like pills that have a record of being very profitable and controllable.

People are so used to taking pills, researching surgeries, that new ideas that need to be proven and marketed would be second choice to a savvy investor. Look at acupuncture...not being controlled by one entity means no big company to promote it with research and ads. No hype to increase popularity means insurance may not cover it, where they WILL cover meds.

Even worse, who is around to promote vegetable gardens, sunlight and fresh air? And the use of those health promoting items is declining by the day. It's not a conspiracy, it's just that no one has figured out a way to make money off it.

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Specializes in ER.
Well, a conspiracy... you may say so. For me it's like take a look at other countries (many sites in English on the net). For example, I have ulcerative colitis, noncurable per most of the GIs I have seen in the states, and I will always be on meds. When I went home to Germany, the first question was on my stress level, then on my diet. In Europe, many countries consider ulcerative colitis a disability and many patients are placed on bedrest when they become acute as it seems to be linked to increased stress level. In Germany, patient may go to a rehab/spa like facility, where they learn stress management techniques and dietary changes that may influence this disease. The healthcare management is mainly preventive, so that people do not get as sick and do not need to use meds. My brother has the same disease, actually, he went to the hospital with bloody diarrhea, weighing 98 pounds (he is 6 feet) and was immediately placed in the ICU. When I saw him about a year after this flareup, he was completely off meds and was doing very well, just did a lot of exercise and stress management. He did not even change much of his diet. What I'm trying to say is that, in the US, meds are an extremely lucrative business (same meds cost in other countries 1/3), and thus, manipulation of the healthcare industry to adopt a high med/low preventative approach is quite likely.

Just try hospitalizing someone for enforced bedrest in the USA. The insurance companies won't go for it. It would be interesting for the OP to use this example and compare relapse rates in Germany vrs the USA.

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I agree with you Ebony...I know what you're attempting to get across but I'm not articulate enough to write it out. In this country, business first, people second.

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I just think of the wealthy and powerful like cockroaches. For every one that you see there are at least 9 bigger, nastier ones that you can't see.

So you are saying that anyone who has wealth or power is akin to a cockroach? Regardless of what they do with it?

The love of money is the root of all evil and people will do ANYTHING for it.

Yes, it's the love of money, not the mere possessing of if, that corrupts. And you don't have to be wealthy to love money. If you know the store clerk gave you too much change and you keep it, you have done a corrupt thing. It's just that you've done it on a smaller scale, and it won't likely end up in the paper.

Conversely, many wealthy folks give generously of their funds, endowing foundations and supporting all kinds of charities and good causes. I'm sure a few do it to polish their image, but a lot of them do it behind the scenes for the good of the recipients and because such things matter to them.

The wealthy and the rest of us are pretty much the same under the skin. The main difference is the proportions and the attention the actions receive.

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Well, a conspiracy... you may say so. For me it's like take a look at other countries (many sites in English on the net). For example, I have ulcerative colitis, noncurable per most of the GIs I have seen in the states, and I will always be on meds. When I went home to Germany, the first question was on my stress level, then on my diet. In Europe, many countries consider ulcerative colitis a disability and many patients are placed on bedrest when they become acute as it seems to be linked to increased stress level. In Germany, patient may go to a rehab/spa like facility, where they learn stress management techniques and dietary changes that may influence this disease. The healthcare management is mainly preventive, so that people do not get as sick and do not need to use meds. My brother has the same disease, actually, he went to the hospital with bloody diarrhea, weighing 98 pounds (he is 6 feet) and was immediately placed in the ICU. When I saw him about a year after this flareup, he was completely off meds and was doing very well, just did a lot of exercise and stress management. He did not even change much of his diet. What I'm trying to say is that, in the US, meds are an extremely lucrative business (same meds cost in other countries 1/3), and thus, manipulation of the healthcare industry to adopt a high med/low preventative approach is quite likely.

So you are saying a US doctor will omit advice about diet and stress reduction in diseases that are exacerbated by stress or improper diet because he only wants to use prescription drugs? I think you should change doctors if that was the case because you happened to get a very poor sampling of US doctors. Your impressions are not accurate. In fact, I would go so far as to say that most physicians here go to lifestyle advice before prescribing drugs. A small fraction of people actually take that advice, though.

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SHHHHHHhhhhhh!

Now the secret is out and you've given it away. If we cure diseases we will all be out of a job. Sure we all know how to cure cancer, diabetes, HIV, trauma injuries, athletes foot fungus, seizures, the common cold, migraines, congenital heart defects, stroke, heart disease.....

It has nothing to do with Big Pharma

The cure is simple

Asystole is a stable rhythm

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Specializes in ICU, PICU, School Nursing, Case Mgt.

Do you have feelings of inadequacy?

Do you suffer from shyness?

Do you sometimes wish you were more assertive?

If you answered yes to any of these questions, ask your doctor or

pharmacist about Sauvignon Blanc

Sauvignon Blanc is the safe, natural way to feel better and more

confident about yourself and your actions. It can help ease you out of

your shyness and let you tell the world that you're ready and willing to

do just about anything.

...and unfortunately have....

You will notice the benefits of Sauvignon Blanc almost immediately and

with a regimen of regular doses you can overcome any obstacles that

prevent you from living the life you want to live.

...just what is considered the appropriate regular dose?...

Shyness and awkwardness will be a thing of the past and you will

discover many talents you never knew you had.

Stop hiding and start living.

....unless you are hiding in a bottle of Sauvignon...

Sauvignon may not be right for everyone. Women who are pregnant or

nursing should not use it. However,. women who wouldn't mind nursing or

becoming pregnant are encouraged to try it

...right, tell that to my 2 breast fed kids......

Side effects may include dizziness, nausea, vomiting, incarceration,

lustfulness, loss of motor control, loss of clothing, loss of money,

loss of virginity, delusions of grandeur, table dancing, headache,

dehydration, dry mouth, and a desire to sing Karaoke and play all-night

rounds of Strip Poker, Truth Or Dare, and Naked Twister!

...you mean there is another way to play????.....

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* The consumption of Sauvignon may make you think you are whispering

when you are not.

* The consumption of Sauvignon may cause you to tell your friends over

and over again that you love them.

.....aww, I love ya, man....

* The consumption of Sauvignon may cause you to think you can sing.

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* The consumption of Sauvignon may make you think you can logically

converse with members of the opposite sex without spitting.

....or drooling...

* The consumption of Sauvignon may create the illusion that you are

tougher, smarter, faster and better looking than most people.

...you mean I'm not ?...

Please feel free to share this important information with as many people

as you feel may benefit!

Now Just Imagine What You Could Achieve With a Good Dry Merlot!!!

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