2nd rejection fingerprints and name search

WittleOnesRN · Sep 27, 2009

I heard that it might be from putting on hand lotion. That is what the livescan ladies told me. She has problems with nurses sometimes cause we wash our hand so much too.

RNKPCE · Sep 28, 2009

That is good info. But my situation is that my because of the 2nd rejection I had an option of sending it in for a "name search" and I feel right now I am in limbo because I don't know the status and when or if I can expect to hear from the DOJ. I don't want to do my fingerprints over with the same livescan operator nor do I want to pay $75 again to go to another livescan operator.

Has anyone had 2 rejections and sent in a "name search"

CrunchRN, ADN, RN · Sep 28, 2009

I had mine done at a local police dept when I moved to Texas and they were fine.

10roller · Sep 28, 2009

i wrote a letter to the DOJ and they wrote a letter that was dated about 2 weeks after mine, however i didn't recieve the letter until about 90 days after i submitted my letter. they are super slow would be my guess.

featherzRN, MSN · Oct 5, 2009

I had mine done at a local police station too (moved to NY) and no problems. At least not yet.

paol · Jan 17, 2010

I was scanned today at the Colma police station in Calif. After 35-40 minutes of prints being rejected the officer told me there is a good chance the prints she is submitting will be rejected. She said it's not uncommon to have to return 3 times. Also, she told me that if I recieve a letter of rejection, I should use "Corn Huskers" lotion on my fingers for a few days before returning.... Whatever that is?

I'm very annoyed at the way the Board of LVN / LPT treats nurses. A few years ago I did not recieve my license. It appears it was lost in the mail, if it was mailed at all. It was clear that they thought I HAD recieved it, and lost it, because they wanted me to pay for a "replacement". Well, I told them I would be happy to pay for a replacement if I ever had that need, but that wasn't the case. I had never recieved my license. I was prepared to go to the Governor and any other official I could think of as a matter of principal... but they relented and sent me a license without extra charge.

One more thing.... When I was licensed initially, about 33 years ago, I had to submit fingerprints. I've assumed that has been the case ever since. It now appears to me that the "Board" has either lost my fingerprints or is too lazy to go and get them out of some dusty box. It's so much easier for them to take $76 from me, along with my wasted time.

And, while I'm at it.... a lot of my complaint is because I can't really afford these fees after retiring a year ago, but... there is a nurse shortage, and I thought I might work part time... I really think it is a good idea for nurses to be fingerprinted... When and why did they STOP fingerprinting nurses?

Finally... I read somewhere online that all of this hassle they are putting us through is because someone questioned why the BRN was renewing a license for a guy who was in prison for murder. Could it really be that nursing boards have put us through all of this trouble and expense because they were embarrassed due to their shortcomings?

Thanx for lending me your ears...

morte, LPN, LVN · Jan 17, 2010

I was scanned today at the Colma police station in Calif. After 35-40 minutes of prints being rejected the officer told me there is a good chance the prints she is submitting will be rejected. She said it's not uncommon to have to return 3 times. Also, she told me that if I recieve a letter of rejection, I should use "Corn Huskers" lotion on my fingers for a few days before returning.... Whatever that is?
And, while I'm at it.... a lot of my complaint is because I can't really afford these fees after retiring a year ago, but... there is a nurse shortage, and I thought I might work part time... I really think it is a good idea for nurses to be fingerprinted... When and why did they STOP fingerprinting nurses?
Finally... I read somewhere online that all of this hassle they are putting us through is because someone questioned why the BRN was renewing a license for a guy who was in prison for murder. Could it really be that nursing boards have put us through all of this trouble and expense because they were embarrassed due to their shortcomings?
Thanx for lending me your ears...

http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=16837&aid=336064&aparam=corn%20huskers%20hand%20lotion&scinit1=corn%20huskers%20hand%20lotion

non oily, maybe that is the point? or maybe it plumps up the ridges? your guess is as good as mine, lol.

RNKPCE · Jan 17, 2010

Some I talked to said that the alcohol based gels we are using in a lot of hospitals are making it hard to get good fingerprints.

sasyone · Jan 20, 2010

When I worked there, a lot of people called that they had they had not received their license when in fact they did, they just wanted a duplicate. Unfortunately, when some do not tell the truth, it puts a damper on others down the line and some, such as you get the short end for those who tried to circumvent the system (you can only have one license at a time in your possession). Therefore, it is the policy (or was as I no longer work there) not to issue another license without a replacement fee.

Fingerprints, it's been all over the news and no the Boards don't just want your $$$. Actually, according to my friend who still works there, it has caused an enormous amount of extra work especially with the furloughs and no overtime (of which they are not paid when they do do the overtime). Since you missed it in the news, both Boards were relying on the licensee's to tell the truth on their renewal forms. Have you had a conviction in the past 2 years? Well, seems some could not tell the truth and had convictions. With the old hardcards, the prints were sent at the time of licensure to make sure AT THAT TIME, you had no convictions. Unlike the livescans of today, there were NO followups from DOJ/FBI if one committed a crime after that date. So there is NO dusty boxes that the employees were too lazy to pull these fingerprints from because #1 the results would be the date you had them done years ago if you did them by hardcard which I'm assuming you did since you had to have them redone, so old print results from 10-20 years ago would not mean you didn't commit any crimes lately #2 the cards were sent to DOJ/FBI so those aren't in any dusty old boxes either. I never worked for DOJ/FBI however, it's a wild guess that after the prints are read, the cards are shredded. There is absolutely no way an agency could keep that many fingerprint cards somewhere in storage. The cost of storage buildings and the amount of employees to upkeep and work the warehouse would be more tax dollars than having to have fingerprints reprinted every 30 years.

Agencies by law cannot share fingerprint informaiton of which I don't think you'd want them to anyway. That would open the doors for anyone to get your prints and also, it's not the Board's responsibility to request the print information to renew or to obtain licensure. It's the licensee or applicant's responsibility.

When looking at a livescan, notice they have certain codes with the name of the requesting agency. What happens is, when you have the prints done, the listing code agency receives the results of your prints and it stays with DOJ/FBI so if at anytime you commit a crime, get arrested, all the agencies you've been printed for and on the list at DOj/FBI will receive the arrest information. If you have been printed for the RN Board, LVN Board, Teacher's Credentialing, all 3 agencies will get the arrest report. Once after all the licensee's who had had hardcards renew in the next 2 years, everyone should have had a livescan done and it will be it for you. Look at the bright side in that this will find those who are out there working who've been arrested for crimes that pertain to harming someone in the nursing field will be found. And yes, after about 3 times they do the name search which takes longer so the preferred is to get the prints read. And no, no one is embarrassed of any shortcomings. Helps if everyone would tell the truth when signing under penalty of perjury but that doesn't always happen so livescans must be done to protect the public.

I was scanned today at the Colma police station in Calif. After 35-40 minutes of prints being rejected the officer told me there is a good chance the prints she is submitting will be rejected. She said it's not uncommon to have to return 3 times. Also, she told me that if I recieve a letter of rejection, I should use "Corn Huskers" lotion on my fingers for a few days before returning.... Whatever that is?
I'm very annoyed at the way the Board of LVN / LPT treats nurses. A few years ago I did not recieve my license. It appears it was lost in the mail, if it was mailed at all. It was clear that they thought I HAD recieved it, and lost it, because they wanted me to pay for a "replacement". Well, I told them I would be happy to pay for a replacement if I ever had that need, but that wasn't the case. I had never recieved my license. I was prepared to go to the Governor and any other official I could think of as a matter of principal... but they relented and sent me a license without extra charge.
One more thing.... When I was licensed initially, about 33 years ago, I had to submit fingerprints. I've assumed that has been the case ever since. It now appears to me that the "Board" has either lost my fingerprints or is too lazy to go and get them out of some dusty box. It's so much easier for them to take $76 from me, along with my wasted time.
And, while I'm at it.... a lot of my complaint is because I can't really afford these fees after retiring a year ago, but... there is a nurse shortage, and I thought I might work part time... I really think it is a good idea for nurses to be fingerprinted... When and why did they STOP fingerprinting nurses?
Finally... I read somewhere online that all of this hassle they are putting us through is because someone questioned why the BRN was renewing a license for a guy who was in prison for murder. Could it really be that nursing boards have put us through all of this trouble and expense because they were embarrassed due to their shortcomings?
Thanx for lending me your ears...

hunnybaby24, BSN, APRN, NP · Jan 29, 2010

Im going through the same thing right now, just in Texas. I guess my fingerprints are worn out because I used to work in a hospital IV pharmacy so I did a lot of washing. Anyway, I'm trying to get my license, new grad myself and I've been waiting for 2 months since this process started. My classmates have already gotten their ATT (authorization to Test for NCLEX) and some have already taken it. I have a job waiting and this is the only thing thats holding me back. They are understanding but this waiitng is frustrating. Its nice to read what is actually going on because NO one is giving me answers... my BON. Thanks, it helps to know someone out there is going through the same thing I'm going through.

hunnybaby24, BSN, APRN, NP · Feb 2, 2010

So how long does it really take to do a name search? The Texas BON said it would take 2-3 weeks. Its the third week now, and they have no response from the FBI. I requested that they submit a request to find out the status of my fbi name search. It will take another week to get back to me about the "status" of it. :uhoh3: