2nd Degree Coursers

babysmiley_me · Apr 2, 2007

hi i have a question do you guys have any information regarding schools accepting doctors (surgeon) to take up nursing ? How many years is needed for the completion of the cors? Do you think it will take 2-3 years or 2 years will be enough to have a nursing degree.. Thanks

lawrence01 · Apr 2, 2007

hi i have a question do you guys have any information regarding schools accepting doctors (surgeon) to take up nursing ? How many years is needed for the completion of the cors? Do you think it will take 2-3 years or 2 years will be enough to have a nursing degree.. Thanks

Hi. You may refer to this thread for a guide of schools offering a progrtam for 2nd coursers.

https://allnurses.com/forums/f235/schools-2nd-coursers-bs-nursing-160831.html

For MDs it is usually more or less 2 years and it won't matter if one is a specialist, a gen. practitioner or a recent medical graduate as the basis for the shortened program is if there will be subjects that can be credited from your med. school and your pre-med course. You need to dig up those transcripts and have it evaluated by the intended school's registrar to let them see the subjects that can be credited and they can give you an est. on how long will it take. A person holding a medical degree would not definitely take 3 years to complete the course.

john83, BSN, RN · Apr 4, 2007

Yup!they're studying AHSE now in FEU.Acccording to them, they are studying in the philippines because its cheaper than in korea and china.
But i think, a lot of study effort for them, I'ved noticed that they find it hard to catch up with lessons because of language barriers. they always have a electronic pocket dictionary to understand the topic and that was really hard.. though they're very patient with that.

I see...They must be in a very difficult situation; it's twice the load(understanding the language and then understanding the contents of the lesson by synthesizing the explicit and implicit definition of the words). Hard work pays off. Eventually, these students will bein the global workforce of nurses(be it in their home country or elsewhere).

gazer · Apr 7, 2007

hi! i just need some help here. I was on my 3rd yr. 2nd sem when i left the philippines. But i was able to get an ASHE. I like to ask which field of nursing do i belong? Is is CNA , LPN? I will soon be applying for a job in the US. And i'm abit at lost.

Thanks!

john83, BSN, RN · Apr 7, 2007

hi! i just need some help here. I was on my 3rd yr. 2nd sem when i left the philippines. But i was able to get an ASHE. I like to ask which field of nursing do i belong? Is is CNA , LPN? I will soon be applying for a job in the US. And i'm abit at lost.
Thanks!

Hi! In the Philippines, AHSE is a general preparatory course, a 2-year associate degree that will allow you to proceed to the 3rd year proper of medical degrees(except medicine)4-year nursing course, 4-year medical technology course, 5-year Physical Therapy course, etc. However, not all schools(even in the Philippines)recognize AHSE and would allow for a full 3rd year transition to any medical course, it's still subject to evaluation by that particular school which you wish to apply, usually, there will be a lot of subjects not credited(so the delay more or less maybe a year), especially if that school doesn't have the AHSE course leading to nursing or any allied medical course.

You have mentioned that you are already in 3rd year(are you in a "ladderized program" that some schools have?), so you have finished some subjects in nursing(I suppose). In the Philippines, ladderized nursing course is one where you earn a degree every year like after 1 year you get the certificate in health aide, then after 2 years you get a diploma in midwifery, after 3 years you get a diploma in nursing, then after 4 years you earn the BSN degree.

Not sure about how they'd evaluate this, just have your credentials evaluated by the board for LPN or CNA in the state where you want to work and/or CGFNS to find out the real score.

By the way, I finished an AHSE degree also before I got my BSN degree(same school where I got my AHSE).

leuqar1117 · Apr 8, 2007

Hi there everyone,

Does anyone here knows the school ST.Rita in Tondo and Laguna NorthWestern College ? I'm planning to transfer to that school on my 2nd sem. , my 1st school is not right for me...(di ko type their programs and system as well)...pls. help...medyo pamatay kasi dun.....hehhehe

Thanks............ :scrying: :smiley_ab:smackingf:banghead:

leuqar1117 · Apr 8, 2007

Hi,

Why is it every filipino i've known (XX) aspiring to become a nurse and work in Green land ....They say that it is well compensated "X"...? any idea X how much does a new nurse in USA earn for start?? some say $40 and some say $10 X X??? hmmmm....

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RNHawaii34 · Apr 8, 2007

hi,
why is it every filipino i've known (xx) aspiring to become a nurse and work in green land ....they say that it is well compensated "x"...? any idea x how much does a new nurse in usa earn for start?? some say $40 and some say $10 x x??? hmmmm....
(moderator note: english language only please per tos)

greenland...where is that? lol, when you say well compensated means you get better benefits from your employer. benefits like good medical insurance coverage,( it is a must especially when you have children), retirement plans, 401ks, iras, sick leave, vacation, holiday pays. not to forget overtime pays, and all other extras....some hospitals have that, some don't, and some workplaces are better than the other. you really need to look at the working condition, nurse patient ratios, and turn over rates... i do beleive for a fact that nobody makes $40.00 an hour as a new grad nurse.( oh, even if you are a veteran nurse from a foreign country like the philippines, you are still considered as a new grad regardless). in my former workplace, a new grad makes $28.50 an hour. i don't know about the other places. you have to remember, the bigger your base rate, the expensive the cost of living. which most people forget...so, if anyone claims their new grad makes $40.00 an hour? pls. let me know so i can move in that state:lol2: .

no rn should make $10.00 an hour. that is scary. being a nurse in the united states is so difficult that your rn license is always on the line...a cna could make $10.00 an hour, anyone who works in non nursing job could make more than that...even if you say you make $30.00, doesn't mean your job is easy. you are responsible with people's lives....everybody depends on you. if you make a mistake, kill somebody, you definitely lose your rn license and go to jail... it is easy to say everybody wants to be a nurse, but does not know what it is like working like a nurse in the united states. it takes a lot of patience, critical thinking, and more patience...you should have a good communication skills too.

leuqar1117 · Apr 12, 2007

:uhoh3:

Thanks for the info.......all i can is ........" my g...o...s....h....!!!

prettyinpink4lyf · Apr 12, 2007

hi everyone,

leugar1117 said that if one will attend nursing school at UMAK, clinicals for 1 month will have to be done outside of Metro Manila. Is this true or is it just an option because for all I know, UMAK is a public university and since it's in Makati, clinicals can be done at OSMA (Ospital ng Makati or Makati City Public Hospital)....and another question : anyone who has heard of Universidad de Manila? Do they accept 2nd coursers? I would appreciate a reply. Thanks you all.