Mother of 6 Lost Nursing License X 2 and Job

[K9lover, ASN, RN]

I get real suspicious of a story that starts out, "I was sittin' on the porch readin' my Bible and didn't do nuthin".

You gave me a good laugh with this one!

[Guest849204]

I'm sorry you are in such a bad situation, stay strong!

That said, something much more serious than a "complaint" must have been sent to the BON. Unless they had a HUGE lapse in judgement or you got hit with some random technicality, the BON would not ask for you to surrender your license (which is the nice way of saying "either you give it up or we take it from you") unless you did something clearly wrong that caused significant harm to a patient. The BON doesn't take away nursing licenses lightly, and there are not many reasons you can lose your license for a true accident, it has to be something you either intentionally did wrong or did it unintentionally but should have known not to do it.

Would you be willing to give us any more details?

[Guest849204]

I'm really confused, did you run the code alone?? Something is not right and missing, purpously omitted!!

I agree. I'm in ICU and have participated in and/or heard about many codes where the patient died, included cases suspicious enough to be investigated by the ME and no one has ever had their liscense taken away. The BON ss well as the justice system even tend to give people more of a break inc ases involving code blue because they recognize all the factors that make it easier to make a mistake so for a RN to be fired and have her license permanently revoked, she must have had done something both intentional and directly lead to significant patient harm. Even cases where relatively healthy patients die as the direct result of a mistake don't result licenses being taken away.

Basically, unless it was an intentional action that the person in question knew it was dangerous and did not intend to benefit the patient and especially if it actually resulted in patient harm, the board wont take away a license for anything a RN might do in a code. There are only a few exceptions like being arrested for a felony will (I think) cause you to lose your license even if the felony has nothing to do with actual or potential harm, and anything related to illegal drugs.

I'm not saying this person deserved to have her license revoked, just saying what the BON usually considered reason to revoke.

[Live9059]

Wow. I let my malpractice insurance expire 2 months ago. I literally just logged on and renewed it after reading this. Our employers are not our friends they will hang us out to dry to save their a##. It would have been cheaper to hire an attorney to save your license and reputation than be in this situation/ unemployed for so long. How hope everything works out but you need to go back to that hospital and find out what they reported.

[A.A.I.]

Yes because the training always sucks at facilities we try to follow their so called protocol but not *** is in place. Also the advice sucks and there is no leader. I know those glaring eyes the same damn eyes that made mistakes probably more than you! Damn people don’t take responsibility for their staff and leave you all to your own?!! Wow I’m a new nurse and it’s been very ratchet out here. I’m on your path and it’s devastating. Hope I pull it together by trusting my common sense. I know these nurses are all jealous I haven’t made mistakes like them and it feels like I’m being sabotaged so they can save themselves. Very cruel and inhumane. Anyone who doesn’t agree is a glaring eye. 

[meanmaryjean, DNP, RN]

I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for $800 Alex. 

• I had just been chosen as one of the top 10 employees out an extremely large hospital campus.
• She told me that I was a piece of crap and that I lied on my application.
• She was going to make sure that I never worked in this state again.
• They said that I was an excellent nurse in an unfortunate situation. 
• The hospital in the state up north that I worked for was also using me as an example in their nurse orientation class. They talk about what a terrible nurse I was and also put my name in big bright red letters on an overhead. 

Also- getting put on the OIG Exclusion list has to do with financial fraud- not clinical practice. 

So I am calling shenanigans on this entire event as described. 

 

[Nurse SMS, MSN, RN]

Its possible the "exclusion list" is Group One if the OP lives in Texas.

[A.A.I.]

On 2/3/2018 at 3:59 PM, Yep, Me said:

No matter what you pay for, go hungry rather than skip on buying malpractice insurance!

That being said:

I had a similar situation: pt coded & DON asked me to "rewrite the code documents because they aren't clear" & back date them for the date of the code. I said I would write an addendum, with a list from Admin about whatever was "unclear", but would not rewrite the original documents. After some pressure & me gently saying "you know what you're asking is illegal". Admin quit asking.

Yes because the advice seemed suspicious but because their title is higher than yours you may respect them and not be insubordinate. That’s what happened  to me and I was “thrown under the bus”. I will still be a team player though...  hope I can be as strong as you and confront which I do at times.

[londonflo]

On 1/31/2018 at 7:32 AM, Nurse Beth said:

I was the only breadwinner in a house with 6 kids.

 

On 1/31/2018 at 7:32 AM, Nurse Beth said:

I went into a very deep depression which put a huge strain on my marriage but my husband stayed by my side and loved me through it.

 

[The0Walrus, BSN, RN]

I'm late, but that is absolutely nuts. I really hope she got herself an attorney or maybe 2... The BON just has way too much power. All this was because a patient died? That makes no sense to me. In a code you have several nurses working together, a doctor, pharmacologist, etc. I'm not judging but what would give them the right to single you out? Patients die many times.

I'm late, but that is absolutely nuts. I really hope she got herself an attorney or maybe 2... The BON just has way too much power. All this was because a patient died? That makes no sense to me. In a code you have several nurses working together, a doctor, pharmacologist, etc. I'm not judging but what would give them the right to single you out? Patients die many times.

[londonflo]

47 minutes ago, The0Walrus said:

. All this was because a patient died?

OH, rethink your values with this statement.

[The0Walrus, BSN, RN]

1 hour ago, londonflo said:

OH, rethink your values with this statement.

You're taking this out of context. Patients code. Sometimes they make it and sometimes they don't. The nurse is not always going to be able to save people. I know it's shocking to know that nurses and doctors can't save everyone. If there is negligence and that's why the patient died I understand it, but if not and the patient died due to something out of the medical team's power then yes all this because a patient died. No need to get pedantic.