Moochers who want to copy your homework or cheat off you......

[caffeineRx]

what do you do with moochers?

[caffeineRx]

Well, I haven't lived under a rock my whole life. I understand the need for playing politics and having a feel for group dynamics. Your social survival skills are important in all aspects of your life. However, I stand by my previous statements.

True, but until you have really been "there", I don't think it's something one can fully comprehend. I don't hold anything against you for that. The statement about stereotypes was incorrect, though, and I'm not going to get into it or give specific examples, because I don't want to twist the entire thread around.

I'm not sure what you meant by "favors". But it does seem I'm doing them a lot of favors and giving them too much credit! lol . Take Care

[caliotter3]

Just start telling people you are barely getting passing grades, then they won't want to copy off you

Better yet, if there are failing grades for any of the tests, start telling them that you failed the previous test or quiz or homework assignment. As long as they can't figure out that you are telling a lie, that should get the heat off you.

[caffeineRx]

Yes, sadly, I have discovered that the moochers can make the same high grades as the students who work their tails off. Another great reason to stop the mooching.... Next semester, we'll start fresh. I think you may be like me: nice, trying to help people out, maybe a little naiive (at least I think I was), about what they were doing. We have to learn too I suppose!

And I think that the mooching is how they got into the program in the place. Too bad they don't spend the time learning.

That's exactly what my guy said! I'm one of those people that loves to help..but wow..I have to say "Hold on a second..why aren't you even attempting to finish your own stuff?". I agree..and next semester is a new one!

[caffeineRx]

LOL @ EmergencyRN! Omg

[CuriousMe]

I guess I don't understand the need for deception. Just smile and say you're not comfortable sharing your answers.

They don't get to make you do something you're uncomfortable with....if they want you to do something you're uncomfortable with, then why do you care about their opinion?

[mizukusai]

Tell them that you are still working on your homework and you will try to get back with them later. Then simply turn them in.

Do you really want this person to someday be a nurse who takes care of your loved one or perhaps yourself in a comatose state? Moochers may be the death of you.

The nursing field is very competitive and should only be occupied by those willing to learn and excel in the profession. Moochers are why many colleges have high attrition rates. Moochers waste valuable slots for more intelligent individuals to occupy; who will be successful in their profession. Moochers may arbitrarily raise the curve in class. Which may lower your actual grade in class pushing you further away from either being accepted into the nursing program or reaching honors status. Moochers sometimes are the people who waste valuable class time.

Moochers may be the reason why your malpractice insurance increases.

[mauxtav8r]

I guess I don't understand the need for deception.

It's not that I'd feel the need to deceive, but that I believe those who are deceptively preparing "their" work don't deserve the truth.

I had an ironclad rule against sharing grades. I had two buddies who knew my real grades -- any they weren't even in my study group. I was intentionally vague about how things went on tests, especially if folks were leaving the room crying.

If someone asks for your stuff, you can say "I didn't do it." Why would that be so unlikely? They themselves didn't do it either, now you are in the same camp. They won't ask again because they now believe you to be just as slack as they are.

Enjoy your grades. You earned them.

[DeeAngel]

You have to give yourself the gift of a firm spine and say NO, no is in and of itself a complete sentence. Or you can tell them "it's just not possible", lather rinse repeat. The other person may try to pile on the guilt, make excuses for themselves, etc. Their "problems" are not your problem so don't fall for it. You also do NOT need to explain your reasoning, thinking or reasons why you won't share your work, the answer is NO and that's all they need to know.

I can think of no better situation where the phrase "Lack of planning on your part does not constitute and emergency on mine" applies.

I have little patience or tolerance for people who want to leech off of the hard work of others.

Telling these people no is standing up for yourself.

[Jolie, BSN]

Telling these people no is standing up for yourself.

Dee Angel makes a good point!

If you don't have the gumption to stand up to lazy classmates, who will you stand up to? How will this translate into profesional nursing practice?

If you won't say, "No" to a classmate wanting to cheat off you, how are you going to say, "No" to a physician who wants you to carry out an inappropriate order, or a charge nurse who wants you to "fudge" a narcotic count, or a co-worker who wants you to "forget" that you saw her do something unethical?

There is much more to our profession than keeping the peace with others. It worries me that you have such concern about niceties and appearances. It's far more important that you concern yourself with professionalism, ethics, values and standards of care.

[Jolie, BSN]

[quote=DeeAngel;4011612

I can think of no better situation where the phrase "Lack of planning on your part does not constitute and emergency on mine" applies.

That's one of my favorites. I used to have it on my office door. For some reason, my boss thought it should come down before our JCAHO inspection :)

The quotes on the inside of my door were a litle more salty.

[CuriousMe]

It's not that I'd feel the need to deceive, but that I believe those who are deceptively preparing "their" work don't deserve the truth.

I had an ironclad rule against sharing grades. I had two buddies who knew my real grades -- any they weren't even in my study group. I was intentionally vague about how things went on tests, especially if folks were leaving the room crying.

If someone asks for your stuff, you can say "I didn't do it." Why would that be so unlikely? They themselves didn't do it either, now you are in the same camp. They won't ask again because they now believe you to be just as slack as they are.

Enjoy your grades. You earned them.

Bah, they're not worth the energy to lie. No. works for me.

[Gerry1888RN]

Ive never really had that much homework for anyone to copy anyway throughout nursing school. The only homework we get is our clinical paperwork, a few writing assignments each semester, and some online care-plans or quizes to do which isn't graded anyway. Most of our knowledge comes from within our own head, and someone else can't copy that. We did have some problems with a few students taking their test later than the rest of the class on purpose so they could ask students who had already taken the specific test questions that were asked on the exam, but that is now taken care of. However we do help each other out with study groups and compare notes often.