Meet a Nurse Recruitor frm Stanford Hospital. Her thoughts regarding Excelsior.

[familyguy]

It was funny. I was on an airplane. I talked with a nurse who works as a Recruiter for Stanford Hospital. At length we discussed Excelsior College. Basically she laughed at the school. She mentioned that no hospital in California would even consider a Excelsior grad due to the fact there are no clinicals involved.

Glad I went through a community college to get my RN.

Just my thoughts

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I was justing giving this group the thoughts of a perspective hospital employer. I have no beef with Excelsior's graduates. It just didn't workd out for me. On the other hand, if I had been an Excelsior RN grad, by the way she talked, I would be banned from applying to a LARGE number of hospitals in Cali. As a matter of fact, the way she talked, no hospital in Cali would even consider employing an Excelsior RN grad.

Yep ... it depends on the state. CA is not recognizing EC graduates who enrolled after a certain date in 2003. However, people who have maintained their enrollment since before the cut-off date WILL be employable in CA. I'm acquainted with a couple of them, and they won't have a problem finding work.

[Woodenpug, BSN]

Stanford claims to hire "the best of the best." They are very picky and usually only hire candidates who have recommendations from Stanford employees.

The nurse manager at R.K. Davies in San Francisco, was a graduate from Regents (EC). I do think it's possible to find work in CA hospitals as a graduate of EC.

I would like to know if an EC graduate with 3 years experience in another state would be able to transfer the license to CA.

[BBFRN, BSN, PhD]

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I was justing giving this group the thoughts of a perspective hospital employer. I have no beef with Excelsior's graduates. It just didn't workd out for me. On the other hand, if I had been an Excelsior RN grad, by the way she talked, I would be banned from applying to a LARGE number of hospitals in Cali. As a matter of fact, the way she talked, no hospital in Cali would even consider employing an Excelsior RN grad.

This has more to do with the CA Board of Nurses than individual institutions. From your previous posts regarding NC1 posted in 2005, it appears that you would not have met the cut-off date as far as the grandfather clause goes, so yes- you are correct in stating that you would not have been able to work in CA as a RN, unless you worked at a VA hospital.

Most current EC students/grads are very aware of the CA decision regarding EC.

[baldee]

This has more to do with the CA Board of Nurses than individual institutions. From your previous posts regarding NC1 posted in 2005, it appears that you would not have met the cut-off date as far as the grandfather clause goes, so yes- you are correct in stating that you would not have been able to work in CA as a RN, unless you worked at a VA hospital.

Most current EC students/grads are very aware of the CA decision regarding EC.

If I'm not mistaken, Florida does not allow EC education for RN either.

Do you have to move to work in another State, or take your test in another state which is an additional expense?

Just what States do allow EC in their RN educational requirements?

Thanks A Bunch!!

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

Florida ALMOST changed their minds, but they are still allowing EC grads.

There is a pretty good listing of states with additional requirements on istudysmart's website: http://www.istudysmart.com/content.asp?cid=70

[Danish, MSN, APRN, NP]

Its really a shame though. A good nurse is a good nurse is a good nurse...no matter how she passed her boards. And might I say, we all take the same boards in the end! Isnt Cali in dire need of nurses??

[baldee]

Florida ALMOST changed their minds, but they are still allowing EC grads.

There is a pretty good listing of states with additional requirements on istudysmart's website: http://www.istudysmart.com/content.asp?cid=70

Wow, that's a lot of conditions (15 states and Canada).

Thanks!:dncgbby:

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

Wow, that's a lot of conditions (15 states and Canada).

Luckily I don't want to live/work in any of the states where it might be an issue, but that is always a consideration for prospective students. Oh, and I forgot to add -- Excelsior RNs can work in any state if he/she works for a VA hospital. :)

[CSLee3, ASN, BSN, LVN, EMT-P]

FAMILY GUY...BOY YOU KNOW HOW TO OPEN A CAN! LETS GET ONE THING CLEAR....There are THOUSANDS of EC grads working in California right this moment. Until a few years back, when the State of California noticed EC had an enrollment of over 5,000 student nurses from California, that they decided they would rather keep the TUITION money in the state and therefore denied further EC recipriocity students, however, if you are educated in the faulklands, russia, phillipiness bosnia, etc. have at it right. The "no clinical" roation is a smoke screen put up by noninformed individuals. EC has no "clinical rotation" but rather the CPNE, which I am sure you and the Stanford lady on the plane could not pass. Nonetheless, there is no clinical rotations as the EC student has already proven themselves by being an LVN/EMTP/Corpsman/foreign educated Doctor. THE CPNE is to qualify their skills, which takes months of practice to even consider applying for. IT is funny that a state with mandatory staffing levels and chronic nursing shortages is dictating where you can and cannot go to school from. We all pass the sames NCLEX boards and walk to the same drum beat. Isnt it funny that EC is rated Exemplary Nursing School and most community college and universities are not. Gee, I suppose they paid them under the table for that one. Isn't it funny that most LVN/LPNs schools have more clinical hours than ADN and BSN programs, and isn't it funny that ADNs pass the NCLEX at a higher percentage than the BSN grads... (source, NCLEX and Tx BON). I personally know of 5 or so great nurses that have worked recently in California doing travel gigs and all are EC grads prior to 2005. IF EC was so dangerous, why can't people prior to 2005 be banned too. Politicians my friend. A fact of life. Ca Politiciansdont want tuition money to leave thier state.

...Like Excelsior College's motto says...."what you know is more important than where or how you learned it"

ERDude, RN

[Baloney Amputation, BSN, LPN, RN]

You flunked NC tests before as an enrolled EC student and then come and tell us how superior your degree is because it's from a traditional CC? I suspect you are trying to tork us off here, but I have an even stronger suspicion that you didn't tell your recruiter "friend" how poorly you did when EC was good enough for you. Spooky stuff!

For the record, the college doesn't make the nurse--the experience and the knowledge makes the nurse. In other words, CC or EC trained, let's be glad for more nursing colleagues. Since my state's BON doesn't give a rat's buttocks about her opinion, I'll be busy twiddling my thumbs for my CPNE date in hopes to finally achieve what I wanted years ago.

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

My golden rule of the internet: attack the post, not the poster. It's too easy to get riled up about this, so I just chose not to!

[BBFRN, BSN, PhD]

Just a quick note to please ask that we refrain from personal attacks. Lunah has given some great advice here. I would also like to add that if you find someone irksome, the ignore feature found in the profile section is very useful. I've even had to use it myself a time or 2.

Thanks.