Meet a Nurse Recruitor frm Stanford Hospital. Her thoughts regarding Excelsior.

[familyguy]

It was funny. I was on an airplane. I talked with a nurse who works as a Recruiter for Stanford Hospital. At length we discussed Excelsior College. Basically she laughed at the school. She mentioned that no hospital in California would even consider a Excelsior grad due to the fact there are no clinicals involved.

Glad I went through a community college to get my RN.

Just my thoughts

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

Thanks for your input. Glad her opinion doesn't change anything for me.

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

And let me just add -- congrats on achieving your RN! That must have been very gratifying after your experience with Excelsior. I'm glad it worked out for you, in the end.

[changeofpaceRN]

I know as an LPN, I learned nothing in clinicals. Oh wait.. I did learn something~ I got really good at looking like a statue and nodding to play by play instructions.

A few weeks of clinicals each semester does not determine who will be a good nurse~ experience is what makes one IMO. If you take advantage of your clinicals, that would add to your "experience".

Those who have already been LPN's are already nurses but have some limitations depending on their state. I don't see how a different initial behind a nurses name suddenly makes them any less of a nurse by going through Excelsior.

[NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN]

I'd hate to say this....but Stanford employees (not all fit this category) are snooty just because they feel they're superior because they work at Stanford....I have to say that I've met former employees who left the hospital for that reason....They just didn't fit in with their snooty attitude....I wish California would accept Excelsior as a school.....hey they except foreign schooling, why not one that's accepted by the NLN....Doesn't make any sense to me....I have to agree with the previous poster, it's not clinicals that make the nurse, it's experience, and obviously Excelsior sees that "clinical experience" is a must before you graduate as an RN.....They don't admit people with out any clinical experience.....I do think you can benefit by having clinicals though....

[Melinurse]

I can only assume that Stanford wants robots instead of creative, independent thinkers. I would not want to work for any hospital like that! :angryfire There are alot of people who think " clinicals " are everything, I agree they help. However, experience on the job and self-reliance go a long way in the nursing profession. You don't want a job where they are already discriminating you just because of the school you attended. Prejudice comes in many forms. Frankly, I AM PROUD to be an EC GRADUATE.:grad:

[akanini, MSN, RN]

All you EC grads, hold your heads up. I'm a strong believer that what may be good for you may not be for another and vice versa. That's why everyone is unique and special in their own way. So like Lunah said, "Glad her opinion doesn't change anything for me." Especially since I have no intention of ever working in California.

[NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN]

.....One thing I wanted to add about clinicals....There are people out there who went to school and had a clinical rotation, but they're not the sharpest tool in the shed....and THAT'S SCARY....and these people went through FULL ROTATION of clinicals.....Once you're on the job out there working, you HAVE to demonstrate competency before you're out on your own...I don't know about other states or hospitals, but the one where I'm working at requires you at least a month long orientation and that orientation has to do with skill under another licensed nurse....Although I do have to admit I do want a nurse out there who knows that they're doing and of course I want a nurse out there who has clinical experience before they work on me.....Would you want a surgeon working on you who has NO CLINICAL EXPERIENCE operating on you? Of course not, who does?.....but at the sametime, these surgeons have someone who is watching over them as they're gaining their experience....samething as a nurse, there is always someone watching over you on the job before you're allowed on your own.....Also, it seems to me that the CPNE will NOT be passed if you don't posses the competency in that particular technique....Look, I'm going through clinicals right now, and we're NOT allowed to do a procedure until we pass our check off.....Once we pass the check off then we may do that procedure if it arises....Samething with the CPNE....California is just anal.....I've come across Excelsior grads who are sharp and know what they're doing....It just depends on the person and how well they absorb the material....So you Excelsior grads, don't let those snooty people from ANY place bring you down.....because if you didn't pass the CPNE you wouldn't be practicing as RN's.....Excelsior is picky when it comes to that CPNE....obvisouly they believe in producing good nurses and you're all one of them!

[familyguy]

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I was justing giving this group the thoughts of a perspective hospital employer. I have no beef with Excelsior's graduates. It just didn't workd out for me. On the other hand, if I had been an Excelsior RN grad, by the way she talked, I would be banned from applying to a LARGE number of hospitals in Cali. As a matter of fact, the way she talked, no hospital in Cali would even consider employing an Excelsior RN grad.

[akanini, MSN, RN]

I'm assuming most of us know this already since EC is not accepted in CA. Like I mentioned on another thread, my dad is personally friends with a RN who is working on her PHD n hires nurses for Memorial Hermann in Houston and has no problem with EC whatsoever. So again that's this woman's and CA's opinion, which they are entitled to..... and has no effect on most of us in this forum.

[it's hot in phoenix]

Here in arizona, the nurses that come straight out of a 4yr. actually have less clinical experience than the 2yr. Now lets focus for a moment on Miss Stanford, go to her college, pay approx. $160,000 for a 4yr. degree. Say you start with a 40$/hr rate as a new grad at their own hospital, every dime you make the first two years, will have to pay the school. Even though I go to EC, I'm capable of using a calculator :chuckle:chuckle:chuckle

[caliotter3]

Really now?! I wonder if this person would be willing to give names of specific institutions that won't accept EC grads? I suppose she knows the nurse recruiters by name and can speak for them? Having been in that area, I can tell you that I've heard some real horror stories about the exalted Stanford Hospital. It, and the nursing/medical care received there, are not as revered as the public would expect. No better, or worse, than any other hospital in the area. And according to her, you can't blame EC for that.