starting school year 2009-2010 engineering, architecture, nursing, and accounting will be five-year college courses, the commission on higher education (ched) said on tuesday.
angeles, also the vice chairman of presidential task force on education (ptfe), said the move was part of the task force recommendation submitted to president gloria macapagal-arroyo last month.
"it was to formalize the prevailing situation wherein students taking the said courses have to complete it for almost five years," he said.
angeles cited nursing course as an example wherein the current curriculum requires enrollment for three summers for students to complete the course.
likewise, making the courses five years would also allow the country to conform to international agreements such as the bologna and washington accords that sets the standards for such courses.
earlier, presidential adviser for education dr. mona valisno said that making these courses five years would do more to improve the filipino graduates competitiveness vis-à-vis their counterparts in the international labor market.
"despite the competent and hardworking abilities of filipino professionals, many are not able to land good jobs or the jobs their degree requires because their credentials are based on a 10-year basic education program, which is not recognized globally," valisno said.
"the philippines is one of only two countries which require only 10 years of basic education. the other country is botswana. in other countries, basic education now lasts 12 years," he said.
CHED should close schools of nursing falling below the standard. This should be their priority and personally, four years is sufficient to adequately train a nurse in a reputable school.
This is something that is a problem because here in the Philippines money talks more than common sense.
Understand that CHED was attempting to shut down unlicensed local board review centers and the unlicensed centers were able to pay off the judges so that CHED no longer has authority to close unlicensed centers.
What more if CHED attempts to shut down poor quality nurse factories, uh... I mean colleges.
There is a new nursing organization starting up which is political in its aims rather than being separated. This group, called "Ang Nars" is attempting to gather the support of all nurses in the Philippines to get congressional seats by the May 2010 elections.
I am undecided as to the overall impact that this sort of organization can have. On the one hand if it remains as ethical as I believe the founder is, the organization could have a sweeping positive impact as it would strengthen the nursing schools by allowing and enforcing stricter guidelines. The goal is to stop nurse factories and get back to having quality education that the Philippines was known for in the 1960s and 1970s and even through the 1980s.
Maybe it'll take another person with the vision of Marcos minus the megalomania.
Anyway; the point is that a 5-year program is fruitless if the extra year is just going to be filled with more sub-par programs. If the overall education system were revamped from Kindergarten all the way up then maybe I'd be more enthusiastic.
Looking at school texts for grade 2 classes I already see spelling and grammar mistakes. English words are used incorrectly, and more probimatic is that Tagalog instruction is incorrect. Imagine that my own neice corrected the teacher on a serious mistake she was making in tagalog. Her father was in the classroom and verified that the teacher not only made a serious mistake, she chastized my neice for correcting her.
The worst part? This is a private school... the public schools are even worse.
Its about time for Filipino nurses to protect their interest as a group. In the US the ANA actively supported pres. Obama. It is just proper for Filipino Nurses to legislate what is good for them and block those laws that they deem not in their best interest. With the vast number of nurses in the Philippines multiplied by their families, the aim for congressional seats is achievable. Philippine nurses can easily secure three congressional seats in the Batasang Pambansa. All you need is 6 % of the total philippine voters. Im sure if the platform of whatever group that would represent nurses would be acceptable, funding will not be a problem. The main challenge will be how to galvanize all Filipino nurses as one. Apathy is the greatest enemy. Will Filipino Nurses surmount it in May 2010? Only the Filipino Nurses can decide.
A fellow alumni who finished a doctorate degree in public health was made chairperson of a committee which was tasked with evaluating the performance of the over 500 schools of nursing in the country. They were given a few years to make a thorough study, as well as an established set of parameters. After they completed their work and had submitted the list of schools which they were recommending for closure, the owners of the schools approached politicians and other influential people to make their case to the highest authorities. The result? No school (not a one) was closed down, the committee resigned en masse as result, and they (the members) were branded as elitists.
Now, those very same schools are being given another year to make more money?
Increasing the number of years to 5 for Nursing is a stimulus to the RP economy. Parents would spend more money, for a longer period of time, and the government gets taxes from the schools, and the teachers are guaranteed jobs for a longer period of time as more students pour into the nursing bandwagon. More students, longer years mean more money for the government, brilliant move really. It's like getting the most money out of the latest fashion craze, for as long as they can.
I'm not supporting Ang Nars because, well obviously I'm a foreigner and I can't be involved with politics. But If any nurses are interested in hearing about them, the founder (someone you probably already know but I will not name here) will be presenting information at the Pinoy Nurse Conference in Cubao in Gateway Center, Mandarin Suites on the last weekend of February. The conference does have an admission fee of P500 but it's a two-day event and there are lots of raffles and discount coupons so the P500 can be easily recovered.
Anyway, you can go there and then the following weekend (first of March) there is a free Expo/Job Fair in the LRT2 Recto Station, on the 2nd floor beyond the shops. There is going to be a sign-up booth there for membership.
Again, I am not supporting it, but I do want people to be informed about its existance so that each nurse can make up his or her own mind.
Hushdawg as always I find your posts enlightening. Why can't a legal resident of the country have a political opinion. It seems posters here who have never set foot in the USA contact my congress to promote change that will only benefit them.
It doesn't seem equal. That aside your information sounds good. Better than sitting at home doing nothing.
Hushdawg as always I find your posts enlightening. Why can't a legal resident of the country have a political opinion. It seems posters here who have never set foot in the USA contact my congress to promote change that will only benefit them.
It doesn't seem equal. That aside your information sounds good. Better than sitting at home doing nothing.
well i just hope if i would be going in a fair like that, it won't be full of call centers.awww!can't there be anything else aside from that?it seems that those call centers are the one who catches the nurses who are unemployed. sometimes i'm asking myself, do we really have to struggle so hard studying nursing just to end up in a call center?heck, don't count me in if i presume right.:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire
Hushdawg as always I find your posts enlightening. Why can't a legal resident of the country have a political opinion. It seems posters here who have never set foot in the USA contact my congress to promote change that will only benefit them.
It doesn't seem equal. That aside your information sounds good. Better than sitting at home doing nothing.
Because according to Philippine law if I, as a foreigner, demonstrate a political cause which is against the standing administration then I can be deported with extreme prejudice and barred from re-entry.
This also counts even if I become a naturalized citizen here. Non-Natives have very few actual rights in the Philippines.
I don't know all the attendees for the expo but the conference is really first rate. I was at the one last september and the information is really useful.
The expo itself is a hodgepodge, there are recruiters and job agencies, so as always nurses have to be careful dealing with them. But there are also a lot of other nurse services that you can learn about by going to these kinds of events.
Because according to Philippine law if I, as a foreigner, demonstrate a political cause which is against the standing administration then I can be deported with extreme prejudice and barred from re-entry.
This also counts even if I become a naturalized citizen here. Non-Natives have very few actual rights in the Philippines.
sorry to be off topic here... i beg to disagree on this one, my kind sir....espousing a political cause is not a ground for deportation per se but espousing or promoting a political cause that would lead to the destabilization and overthrow of the government would be.(not that i support the present administration)
sorry to be off topic here... i beg to disagree on this one, my kind sir....espousing a political cause is not a ground for deportation per se but espousing or promoting a political cause that would lead to the destabilization and overthrow of the government would be.(not that i support the present administration)
You are correct, that is the text definition.
I personally know an American who was deported because he appeared on TV and was asked about a city policy and he replied that it was "kind of stupid."
That's it.
Deported and barred from re-entry and now he has a very hard time trying to get his wife into the USA.
I don't want to risk it so I just keep my mouth shut in public about anything to do with politics.
Unfortunately that means that I have to really distance myself from Ang Nars because what it proposes to do is to shake things up. I can't even risk a handshake with the brave woman who is leading the organization.
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This is something that is a problem because here in the Philippines money talks more than common sense.
Understand that CHED was attempting to shut down unlicensed local board review centers and the unlicensed centers were able to pay off the judges so that CHED no longer has authority to close unlicensed centers.
What more if CHED attempts to shut down poor quality nurse factories, uh... I mean colleges.
There is a new nursing organization starting up which is political in its aims rather than being separated. This group, called "Ang Nars" is attempting to gather the support of all nurses in the Philippines to get congressional seats by the May 2010 elections.
I am undecided as to the overall impact that this sort of organization can have. On the one hand if it remains as ethical as I believe the founder is, the organization could have a sweeping positive impact as it would strengthen the nursing schools by allowing and enforcing stricter guidelines. The goal is to stop nurse factories and get back to having quality education that the Philippines was known for in the 1960s and 1970s and even through the 1980s.
Maybe it'll take another person with the vision of Marcos minus the megalomania.
Anyway; the point is that a 5-year program is fruitless if the extra year is just going to be filled with more sub-par programs. If the overall education system were revamped from Kindergarten all the way up then maybe I'd be more enthusiastic.
Looking at school texts for grade 2 classes I already see spelling and grammar mistakes. English words are used incorrectly, and more probimatic is that Tagalog instruction is incorrect. Imagine that my own neice corrected the teacher on a serious mistake she was making in tagalog. Her father was in the classroom and verified that the teacher not only made a serious mistake, she chastized my neice for correcting her.
The worst part? This is a private school... the public schools are even worse.