Mandatory Voluntary Extra?????

**canoehead, BSN, RN** · Sep 10, 2003

An oxymoron. It sure ain't voluntary in my book

Tweety, BSN, RN · Sep 10, 2003

It must be illegal there to require mandatory overtime, so they call it "voluntary" to keep themselves out of trouble. Whatever.

renerian, BSN, RN · Sep 10, 2003

Seems odd to me too?

renerian

CseMgr1, ASN, RN · Sep 10, 2003

Originally posted by KaroSnowQueen
I work as agency for a facility that mandates each nurse work a "voluntary extra" day. Is this the worst case of double speak you have ever heard? How can it be "voluntary" when it is mandated???
No one asks questions or raises their eyebrows, they just sign up for their VX days, and go on. VX are the first to be cancelled, and they can't be pulled from their floor on their VX days, but still......
In my book, mandatory and voluntary are opposites, not the same thing!!! :confused:

What a crock.

SmilingBluEyes · Sep 10, 2003

like the others said

an oxymoron......

hmph.

purplemania, BSN, RN · Sep 10, 2003

Write a letter to the HR Director asking him/her to please define the term. Don't give your comments. Just ask for theirs. How can you volunteer for something if you don't know what it is? What does HR policy say about OT? I find many of our nurses are not aware of policies, even though they are on the Intranet and every unit has access to the site, plus we have Internet Cafe in Cafeteria and website is accessible from home. THey depend on rumors to stay informed.

sjoe · Sep 10, 2003

Fortunately you are agency, so you don't have to worry about, nor get involved in trying to clarify/straighten out, stuff like this. People need to fight their own battles, and if they are unwilling to do so, then so be it. At least you know this is NOT the kind of facility where you want to work as a regular employee.

As always:

SirJohnny · Sep 10, 2003

KaroSnowQueen:

- I hope by "volunteering" -- you mean they have to work that day. Hopefully, they/you still get paid for that day.

- Does any one jump on the chance to grab these extra days, in the hopes of making extra $$$.

- Just curious.

Thanks,

John Coxey

Eddye · Sep 10, 2003

Originally posted by sjoe
Fortunately you are agency, so you don't have to worry about, nor get involved in trying to clarify/straighten out, stuff like this. People need to fight their own battles, and if they are unwilling to do so, then so be it. At least you know this is NOT the kind of facility where you want to work as a regular employee.
As always:

Not to sound belligerent, but isn't this the same type of thinking that allows people to justify looking the other way when other things are wrong but don't directly affect them; say, just for example, when a doc is chewing a nurse for something (especially if it is something stupid) in front of co-workers/patients?

jadednurse · Sep 10, 2003

Originally posted by Eddye
Not to sound belligerent, but isn't this the same type of thinking that allows people to justify looking the other way when other things are wrong but don't directly affect them; say, just for example, when a doc is chewing a nurse for something (especially if it is something stupid) in front of co-workers/patients?

Why on earth should this agency nurse fight this battle when she isn't even staff at this hospital. She's an employee of the agency for crying out loud. That would be like a staff nurse calling an agency and complaining about thir policies and practices.

Yes the policy stinks. Yes if I were a staff nurse there they'd hear from me, but if I were agency there...well, it's not my battle to fight.

Eddye · Sep 10, 2003

Jaded

Interesting choice of a "handle". Does it say as much about you as it implies?

For the record, I'm not saying she? should or should not get involved. I was simply asking if anyone agreed that the attitude about not getting involved is what allows everyone to simply turn their heads in the other direction because a wrongdoing "simply isn't my problem". It's one thing if no one cares, but it's quite another if you have to show up to work every day and hear people b!tch!ng all day/night because their management sux yet no one is doing anything about it.