Mandatory Voluntary Extra?????

[KaroSnowQueen]

I work as agency for a facility that mandates each nurse work a "voluntary extra" day. Is this the worst case of double speak you have ever heard? How can it be "voluntary" when it is mandated???

No one asks questions or raises their eyebrows, they just sign up for their VX days, and go on. VX are the first to be cancelled, and they can't be pulled from their floor on their VX days, but still......

In my book, mandatory and voluntary are opposites, not the same thing!!! :confused:

[askater11]

Originally posted by caroladybelle

Eddye, love, there is a reason that many of us dedicated professionals go agency.

It is because one day after tilting at way too many windmills and being treated way too much like crap, we hit the road.

If you choose to work for such an employer, then you agree to work for those terms. If there is no violations of codes of ethics, or violations of Board rules, it is not my fight as a nurse. If however, the facility is doing something to harm Nursing as an entity or commiting some grievous violation, then it is my duty to speak.

The employees also are choosing to work there - they could go agency like the rest of us. While I do not choose to work there, for an employer that practices such a load of BS as "policy", it is their right to do so.

And when their employees quit in mass, and work for them as agency instead under much better conditions and without those requirements., well the facility will learn from their stupidity.

I feel you should stand up to your employeer. If things don't change then leave.

But I have a question? To this statement...are agencies really working in "better conditions"? I know in some points maybe. But the agency nurses I've seen...they've worked on our "worst" floors....the floors that are mismanaged and poorly staffed.

[chase]

This is why Nurses need to stay vigilant about the overtime issue in the Senate. It truly disturbs me when Nurses say that we would not be affected by this proposal, the writing is on the wall, right now we are being paid for the Mandatory/Volunteer nonsense, if this bill goes through in favor of the Labor Department we will be granted a day off for that Mandatory/Volunteer Service, which only benefits the Employer/Corporations. Let us UNITE and say no to MANDATORY OVERTIME.

[nursegoodlove]

"Always in your stomach & in your skin, there was a sort of protest, a feeling that you had been cheated of something that you had a right to." "Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?" (Orwell:1984)

:imbar

This is certainly not "voluntary" & if there is a constant need to fill these gaps - "why" isn't the manager scheduling these in on the master rotations to become part of the employees FTE? I would say they are "nickel & diming" with this manuever. These "extra" shifts should pay as "over-time" and......there should be no such things as "mandatory" over-time unless it is an emergency (i.e.: bomb, earthquake, etc.). Staffing problems are a management problem and not an emergency.

What would happen if all these nurses booked on these "voluntary days" called in sick..........?

[P_RN, ADN, RN]

MSNBC news page has a story on this. It has some interesting views on types of nurses, but mainly it explains how the gov wants to destroy OT. http://www.msnbc.com/news/965284.asp?0cv=CB20

"For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution; and it is

always wrong" H L Mencken

[CseMgr1, ASN, RN]

Originally posted by P_RN

MSNBC news page has a story on this. It has some interesting views on types of nurses, but mainly it explains how the gov wants to destroy OT. http://www.msnbc.com/news/965284.asp?0cv=CB20

"For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution; and it is

always wrong" H L Mencken

Thanks for sharing this article. MOST excellent! =)

[Agnus]

EDDYE,This is NOT the AGENCY nurse's battle. This is NOT her employer. She is representing the AGENCY and as such doesn't have consent right nor athority from agency to become involved in internal politics of the client facility. come on on guys you just don't do this in business, any business.

Second if those nurses are unwilling to help themselves there is nothing anyone else can effectively do.

That is the problem nurses too ofter find themselves in a bad situation and won't act because they will not risk thier precious job but instead hope someone else will save them. They don't get it. It does not work that way.

Don't you see, if they place the value of thier job above all else they are effectively telling the world that not matter how bad something is, no matter how much they grumble to co worker it is NOT more important than their job.