Management Pay

[QTNurseBSN]

Hello,

I have been filling in as an Interim Nurse Supervisor for a department at the hospital. This department is not a nursing unit, but is highly related to nursing and the position requires you to be a RN preferably with a BSN. I was offered this position, which is salaried and the pay is only going to be $1.00 more an hour. Seriously??? Is this right?? I was getting paid more for filling in on an Interim basis.

There is a lot of responsibility, such as managing the budget, staff evaluations, committees, meetings, managing the staff, etc....in addition to your normal everyday responsibilities. Even though it is not a Nurse Manager position on a nursing floor..it is still considered a management position.

Is this the typical amount a nurse manager makes when transitioning from staff nurse to management. I think I may be better off working as a nurse and receiving differential pay, weekend diff and holiday pay VS working a dayshift salaried job knowing that I will likely work more than my slotted hours some week.

Granted the hours and flexibility are great, but when it comes to paying bills I will be pinching pennies..especially when I know the potential to make more money is available. Money is not everything but it does help. I thought as a Manager, you would at least make maybe $3-6 more an hour, not one dollar. Especially with all of the added responsibility.

Would any of you take this job because the hours and flexibility are great OR would you rather work evenings, night and/or weekends where you know you will get paid for every hour you work, including OT in addition to differential pay???

[Isabelle49]

That sounds about right.

[llg, PhD, RN]

It's very common for beginner-level manages to make less than staff nurses. Staff nurses earn differentials etc. and get paid for working extra hours. Staff even get "time and a half" for working more than 4o hours per week. Managers are often expected to work off shifts, weekends, etc. without any sort of bonus pay -- and work hours above 40 per week for no pay at all.

Experienced managers usually make a high enough salary to "get ahead" of their staff, but that takes a while to rise to within the pay grade.

Welcome to the world of management. Think of that the next time you hear staff complaining about their manager not coming in enough to work extra to cover busy shifts. Many staff members don't realize what they are expecting their manager to do.

[joanna73, BSN, RN]

I remember it was the same way when I worked in hotel mgmt. The front desk staff made more than we did. As a result, and now that I'm a nurse, I vowed to never again accept a formal management position. Maybe charge nurse, at most. Anything else just isn't worth it. Way too much work, not enough money.

[Argo]

No salary for me. Hourly only.

[BrookeeLou_RN]

Interim managers always get more as they "need you". Once they are ready to hire, they act like the title will pay bills... It won't at the beginning but to get to higher level one must go thru the beginner levels first.

[evolvingrn, BSN, RN]

my co-worker accepted a mgt position as an interim and it ended up costing her money as well. we were all shocked and she chose to not pursue the position even though she was good at it.

[KJStarling]

I am leaving a salaried postition to go back to the bedside, and hourly pay. My salary looks awesome on paper, the benefits are great, until you factor in 60 + hour work weeks and 24/7 responsiblity... I will never take a salaried position again.

[MomRN0913]

I am actually making 25K more a year in management (I was way underpaid at the bedside in my precious facility in the ICU) I however hate it. The place I work for is new with no orginzation, bad decisions made clinically by non clinical people, 10 hour days, on call 24/7 and awful stress. I am actually physically ill. I am a single mom to a 3 year old girl who is frsutrated on how when I get home, I am still always on the phone with work!

Sorry, I just made that about me. But really, if I am thinking 25K more isn't work it, I wonder if $1 more an hour is.... but my place is a whole different story

[GM2RN]

It's very common for beginner-level manages to make less than staff nurses. Staff nurses earn differentials etc. and get paid for working extra hours. Staff even get "time and a half" for working more than 4o hours per week. Managers are often expected to work off shifts, weekends, etc. without any sort of bonus pay -- and work hours above 40 per week for no pay at all.

Experienced managers usually make a high enough salary to "get ahead" of their staff, but that takes a while to rise to within the pay grade.

Welcome to the world of management. Think of that the next time you hear staff complaining about their manager not coming in enough to work extra to cover busy shifts. Many staff members don't realize what they are expecting their manager to do.

But it IS part of their job description, regardless of how much money they make. If they have problems filling the role, they shouldn't take the job.

[woknblues]

As someone else mentioned, welcome to management. Never, ever again will I work on salary. Salary is a great way to get "worked for your pay", not vice versa.

[joanna73, BSN, RN]

After many years of it, I realized...salary SUCKS. They cannot pay me enough for all the extra hours, working on days off, getting calls at home, all the troubleshooting. No thanks. My peace of mind is priceless...