lpn supervising RN!!!

[masry123]

I am very confused, my facility just hieared 2lpn to supervise day shift during weekday and weekends. we do have more than 6 RN {new grad} on diffrent floors. my question is 'is it possible for lpn to supervise RN if she have mor exp":idea:?

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[leslie :-D]

this must be a ltc facility.

and yes, lpn's can supervise an rn administratively, but not clinically.

this is very, very common.

leslie

[Meriwhen, ASN, BSN, MSN, RN]

It happened to me when I was working at the city clinic; my immediate supervisor was an LPN...but like Leslie said, it wasn't as much clinical supervision as it was paperwork and patient education.

[KADRN]

My fellow coworkers and I were discussing this last night at work, we are RNs at a drug and alcohol detox and rehab facility. Up until recently our ADON was a LPN and on the floor RNs and LPNs rotate the duty of charge nurse.

[kat7ap]

I worked at a LTCF with several RNs. The ADONs were LVNs and supervised the unit. However the DON was an RN and I think "officially" clinically supervising.

[RosesrReder, BSN, MSN, RN]

One of my best supervisors was an LPN with many more years of experience than I can count on my fingers and toes. Like previous posters said, she was only able to supervise my scheduling and administratively. I was one of the very few RN's and had no desire in doing her job. I was a much happier nurse being part of the staff. I had no problems with it whatsoever and neither did the rest of the facility. She did her job and she did it very well. This was at a private Correctional facility where I worked part-time.

This same LPN came to work at the hospital I worked for FT, and worked per-diem. Often we worked shifts together and I did her IV pushes and hung blood, etc. Some people called it weird. I called it being colleagues.

[sissykim]

my supervisor is an LPN. I love him he's the best sup I ever had. He is not your typical back biteing sup he's straight forward.

[P_RN, ADN, RN]

As far as I know it is NOT legal, nor are you covered since the LPN scope of practice is not that of the RN. You need to get with your state board's legal dept. to make sure. This happened to me years ago and at the time I wrote the legal editor of NURSING 19XX magazine. She CALLED me and sent a special delivery letter telling me this is not legal. I have it somewhere, but the point is SCOPE OF PRACTICE.

[PatMac10,RN, RN]

Idk where you are but here in my state of NC. The NCBON (NC Board of Nursing) just recently posted new information which better defined the scope of practice for LPN's and RN's. It had a comparsion chart and under the issue of supervision it said, on the LPN side, that it was beyond the scope of practice for an LPN to supervise an RN. It didn't clarify whether clinically or administratively. It seems that if the LPN had more experience in the Administrative dept then sure they could be the nurse in charge or if they have another degree which qualifies them too be the LTC administrative nurse. Look at your states Board of Nursing Website. NC's updated info and clarification really helped me.

[TheCommuter, BSN, RN]

LPNs can supervise RNs in an administrative capacity, but never in a clinical capacity. Therefore, it is possible for an RN to be supervised by an LPN.

In fact, anyone can be in charge of an RN in an administrative capacity, but only another RN can be in charge clinically.

[Hospice Nurse LPN, BSN, RN]

I worked as ADON at a facility several years ago. I didn't (couldn't) supervise clinically, but did schedules, administrative paperwork, etc. One of the RN's in the field and I became good friends. Now we work together at another facility and she's the DON and I'm one of the staff nurses. We often laugh about when I was her "boss"!

[smartnurse1982]

Idk where you are but here in my state of NC. The NCBON (NC Board of Nursing) just recently posted new information which better defined the scope of practice for LPN's and RN's. It had a comparsion chart and under the issue of supervision it said, on the LPN side, that it was beyond the scope of practice for an LPN to supervise an RN. It didn't clarify whether clinically or administratively. It seems that if the LPN had more experience in the Administrative dept then sure they could be the nurse in charge or if they have another degree which qualifies them too be the LTC administrative nurse. Look at your states Board of Nursing Website. NC's updated info and clarification really helped me.

Can the lpn,since she is in charge,delegate tasks to the Rn?