Lpn & asn are are being phased out.

kbrn2002, ADN, RN · May 19, 2016

Hello Guys!!
May i ask if you know of any school in canada offering on line lpn course for outside student?
I am currently working as a sterile service tech and i want to pursue nursing using lpn as an entry.
thanks in advance.

The clinical component is such a huge requirement for any initial nursing degree that there's no way you'll find an online only option. The online degrees are RN to BSN or higher and many of those do have some clinical hours.

If you happen to find an LPN program that claimsto be online only run far and fast

RunnerNurse09, BSN, RN · May 19, 2016

While I didnt read all the comments, one poster did mention a great point, and one that is brought up in a class I am taking in my BSN program: the fact that one of the biggest reasons to make the BS the entry level is to make the nurses' education more comparable to other health care professionals. And it should be. This is why there is talk of nurse practitioners requiring a doctorate degree. Make sure your sitting down for this, because there is even talk of making the msn the possible entry level. They have required more education for other health care professionals, why not nurses?

SNRN2BE · May 20, 2016

Sounds like semantics here. I think to say that saying "most hospitals is irresponsible and incorrect" is somewhat of a harsh statement. I am certain there are magnet status hospitals who have many seasoned experienced nurses with ADNs or LPNs. While it may not necessarily be a requirement to hold a BSN to work at a magnet status hospital, a lot of the hospitals I have looked at (who hold magnet status) require that NEW hires agree to either have or obtain their BSN within a designated time period, ie. 3 years or 5 years. If anyone wants to know what the requirements are for a magnet hospital, go to the ANCC's website and read for yourself. And you know, with nursing job requirements, openings and several other factors come into play. But by in large, it's supply and demand, like basic economics. If there is a large supply, there is a smaller demand and vice versa. That said, according to a recent statistical report issued by the ANCC, 58.55% of magnet hospital nurses have a BSN that number is further broken down by number of patient beds in respective facilities. That number increases to 71% in peds magnet hospitals. We do not know the requirements of the hospitals for new hires or seasoned experienced nurses either. I think it can only be more beneficial for anyone to earn the highest degree they can in the field they chose to do pursue. But that's just me. I intend to at least get my BSN.

2mint · May 20, 2016

"Quote from mushyrn"

Wait, wait, NOBODY said less education requirements allow us to relate to our patients. I'm wondering how much reading comprehension you learned in that university degree....
How can we discuss this if you don't understand what was written?

Don't worry, reading comprehension has and will always be the domain of Humanities Grads.... :roflmao:

During my last clinical semester, a UCLA grad nurse was high on her horse, until I gently let her know that all of my clinical group have prior bachelors, then she discreetly dismounted...a very natural course to take given when one stands in front of those who are more educated than oneself. :smokin:

To mushyrn, calling a BSN education "well-rounded" is suspect; a BSN education will provide you "depth" (in human physio/bio and pharm) but a BSN education will not provide you with "breadth" i.e. the definition of "well-rounded."

Side note: As the author of 'Pass California NCLEX-RN in 60 Questions', I have other dude beat who passed it in 70 questions.

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · May 20, 2016

My job is BSN only but they'll do an exception if they really want you. I went and got the BSN about three years ago - totally worth it to not have to worry about it and I went somewhere cheap enough that I could pay cash. :)

Where did you go to school that you could pay cash? I want to do this!

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · May 20, 2016

I graduated in 2010 with my ADN from a community college here in San Diego. The next year their LVN program was dropped. The Director of Nursing was pursuing a goal to get future students a BSN degree from that community college. She said everyone would need it in order to get a job. In 2010 everyone was scrambling to get a job. I was previously employed so my job was tied up but even students with a prior masters degree had to look for a year before finding employment as a nurse. In San Diego County where I live all the hospital websites say BSN preferred. Very tough for new grads here to find employment, BSN or not. Here there are many schools producing new grad nurses with BSNs alongside the community colleges so we have a glut of new grads. The BSN can help one get a job but it is not guaranteed.

Farawyn · May 21, 2016

While I didnt read all the comments, one poster did mention a great point, and one that is brought up in a class I am taking in my BSN program: the fact that one of the biggest reasons to make the BS the entry level is to make the nurses' education more comparable to other health care professionals. And it should be. This is why there is talk of nurse practitioners requiring a doctorate degree. Make sure your sitting down for this, because there is even talk of making the msn the possible entry level. They have required more education for other health care professionals, why not nurses?

I'm sitting down. Can you share "the talk" of MSN being the entry level for RNs? Thanks.

Guest957596 · May 21, 2016

I am thinking of relocating to the Midwest or Florida after my daughter graduates college in three years for this very reason. I'd prefer Florida though

ASNs have no problem getting hired in Northeast Florida.

Glycerine82, LPN · May 21, 2016

10,000 people a day turn 65, I'm pretty sure there will be a place for all of us and then some.

Guest957596 · May 21, 2016

While I don't think phasing out, such as in firing, LPNs and ADNs, is the proper way to go about things, I do feel that making the BSN the new minimum standard entry to the profession is a good way to go. Nurses cry out for respect and a seat at the table, and yet, one can become a nurse in less than 16 months. No modern profession allows this. A Bachelors level degree provides a person with a well-rounded education outside the scope of their individual career paths and opens doors to many different paths in life.
If we want nursing to be some side-trade job, fine, continue to bash nurses with a Bachelors degree and let people with less than 2 years of schooling become nurses. However, if we want respect for our career and educational level, a BSN as entry to the profession needs to be mandatory ASAP. Yeah, feelings will be hurt and insecurities will be brought to light, but higher education should be the goal for our career, ALWAYS. Nobody should be bashed for having a higher level of education, and nursing is the only "profession" which does that to its members.

"Mandatory ASAP"? ASAP is usually reserved for extreme situations. I don't think there's an emergency here for nursing at the moment. Haven't seen a pt yet turning down care from a nurse without a BSN or asking what their degree is, or any lack of professional respect.

MiaLyse, APRN · May 21, 2016

Where I live we have three LPN programs in my area alone. ADN nurses are still being hired at our local hospital although BSN is preferred and some hospitals within an hour driving distance are requiring a BSN to be hired.

I live in the midwest and I've been seeing that schools have discontinued the LPN and ASN programs. Will the entry level for a nurse be BSN or MSN??? What will happen to nurses that only has an ASN?? I'm more concerned about people that are okay with just being an ASN and not wanting to go to school for 4 years(like myself) & knowing you'll never pay off your student loans. Can somebody tell me why???

rachel100639 · May 21, 2016

Theyve been saying this for 30 years. If you want tpo be treated like a pack mule and a doormat, work in a hospital.